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Offline Amadeus

Re: Signs
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2013, 11:58:47 PM »

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However i dont believe that spiritual insight is kept within the realms of the spiritual. 
For example, you can see signs from God which are spiritual, manifested in a physical way.

Yes, while most people can perceive the wonders of God with the natural senses, not everyone is able or willing to recognize them for what they are. An atheist can see and appreciate the beauty a place like Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming, or the Grand Canyon of Arizona , but is unwilling (or unable)  to acknowledge the Creator of those wonders.

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Re: Signs
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2013, 12:17:33 AM »
 Sometimes I get myself worked up into a tizzy over things, and lose focus of various things, then find God gives me a nudge.  Give you example, t'other day got up for work, fed daughter, dog etc, usual morning...was getting myself worked up before day had even started!  I unlocked front door, to be met by a really bright double rainbow in front of me....I instantly thought it was God reminding me of His promises to me, and to hand my day over to God before it begins...instantly calmed me anyways, this is a example of seeing Gods 'signs' for me, in my life, being real and not just talking about it.

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Re: Signs
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2013, 12:09:34 PM »
the wise men looked for a sign
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Offline Amadeus

Re: Signs
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2013, 01:10:07 AM »
the wise men looked for a sign

And when they were able to see it, they followed it.

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Re: Signs
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2015, 06:38:58 PM »
Dear All,

I woke up this morning thinking about signs.  It came to me, through revelation, that whenever God shows up there are signs present.  It is written,

?It came even to pass, as the trumpeters and singers were as one, to make one sound to be heard in praising and thanking the Lord; and when they lifted up their voice with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of musick, and praised the Lord, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: that then the house was filled with a cloud, even the house of the Lord; So that the priests could not stand to minister by reason of the cloud: for the glory of the Lord had filled the house of God.?

2 Chronicles 5:13,14

Perhaps you have heard the saying ?signs of life.?  When someone appears dead people check for a pulse and look for other indications that the person may still be living.  In fact, when people lack signs of life they are pronounced dead.

Some people in Christianity today despise people who look for signs of life as those who are somehow weak and not able to live by faith.  To some being able to live without signs is considered a higher form of true Christianity.  They do not need to speak in tongues nor believe in a rapture.  They do not need emotional experiences.  In fact the less signs they have the more they believe they are walking strong in God.

While I do agree that we must walk with God even in the absence of ?signs? I believe it is preferable to walk with God with signs.  I believe we should embrace instead of eschew manifestations of God?s presence because it is when God is with us in a demonstrative way that our very nature is renewed and changed for the better.  It is written,

?Then a cloud covered the tent of the congregation, and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle. And Moses was not able to enter into the tent of the congregation, because the cloud abode thereon, and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle. And when the cloud was taken up from over the tabernacle, the children of Israel went onward in all their journeys:?

Exodus 40:43-36

The children of Israel lived by following the presence of God and it was through signs that they were able to know where God was.  It is not weakness to follow the pillar of cloud by day but rather expedience.  To be where God is meant shelter, food, and protection and is the only way they could survive in the desert.

Just as a body with no signs of life is dead so to churches with no signs of the Spirit are dead.  It is just that some churches have been deceased for so long they have made it into a virtue instead of a tragedy.  Instead of mourning their lack of life they are proud of it and look down upon others who seek such signs.

The truth is that we are all mixed up about a great many things in Christianity.  In our hearts we want to serve God but we just don?t know how to properly go about it.  This is why we desperately need to live by revelation for only in that way can our Father teach us what we really need to know.  We need clarity more than conformity.  Only through obtaining His perspective can we possibly change our perspective.

We have entered into a time of strong delusion.  The world is turning towards the spirit of antichrist in preparation for his revealing.  As Christians it is ever more important that we become willing and able to live by every world that proceeds our of the mouth of our Father on a daily basis, trusting Him more than everything that is going on around us.  We need to seek His presence and signs are what indicate where He is.

In conclusion, signs are indicators that God is present and we should welcome them into our lives and into our churches.  Jesus said that He came to bring us life and life more abundantly therefore when He is present there will be signs of life.  Let no one intimidate us into thinking that we should not want to see and experience such signs for to be with God is the goal we all hope for and share.

Someone was on about signposts or something of the like other week, think it was seeker...anyway this thread came about and reminded me of it, some good posts re signs from God on this.

Offline francis drake

Re: Signs
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2015, 07:06:12 PM »

Matthew12v38Then some of the scribes and Pharisees said to Him, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You." 39But He answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet; 40for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.?


Here Jesus in response to their demands for a sign, tells them that (until his death) there will be no sign given to them.
Yet to everyone else, all that Jesus did was a sign, every healing, every miracle, every dead man raised, every demon cast out. In fact many of the things that Jesus did were direct fulfillment of prophecy. Yet evil hearted people remained blind, simply because they were unregenerate and preferred darkness rather than light.
Thus amongst countless miraculous signs, none would be of value to the willfully blind.

To unwrap what Jesus said, we need to understand that the visibility of any sign depends entirely on the viewer. Just like the various ground conditions in the parable of the sower, the sign will be snatched by the birds of the air, or root itself down and bring good fruit.

That the sign of Jonah was the only sign the Pharisees might recognise was because it was they the Pharisees themselves who carried out the sign, killing him, and then placing a guard on his tomb, and three days later finding him gone!
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Signs
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2015, 12:51:19 PM »
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To unwrap what Jesus said, we need to understand that the visibility of any sign depends entirely on the viewer. Just like the various ground conditions in the parable of the sower, the sign will be snatched by the birds of the air, or root itself down and bring good fruit.

So you've to be watchful all the time?
What distorts a believers 'eyesight' when it comes to things sourced or signposted from God?

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