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Re: Why Did God Create the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2013, 10:16:44 PM »

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So would that mean that God had  the "knowledge of good and evil" before creating the tree [which was symbolic]
That may be an impossible question to answer. But if the tree is symbolic, then what is it symbolic of. Is the tree free will itself? And is the eating of of it the misuse of the free will? I have no answers, only questions I`m afraid.

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Re: Why Did God Create the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2013, 11:56:53 PM »
Genesis 2:9  I suppose we will have free will in the new heaven and earth

As for the tree of life that gave immortality mankind was barred from this

But in Revelation 22:2 we once again see the tree of Life bearing crops for each month and On each side of the river stood the tree of life, this would mean that it was more than one tree !

Going to Ezekiel 47:7  we see these tree's and the same shall line the city , the New "Eden restored"

Or being restored : as in Psalm 1:1-3

3That person is like a tree planted by streams of water, which yields its fruit in season

Here beauty for ashes, planted by the Lord Isaiah 61:3 the oaks of righteousness

Which is joy instead of mourning in ashes  Matthew 9:15

Amnd the tree's of the field shall clap their hands Isaiah 55:12 and you shall go out with Joy




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Re: Why Did God Create the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2013, 11:39:18 PM »
   The tree of knowledge of good and evil is a tree that bares that fruit, the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. People are as trees because they root themselves in the word of God and the fruit they bare is knowledge. The knowledge of God, the father above is good but the knowledge of this world is evil. So it wasn't that Satan was a snake in that tree but that person had the knowledge of God but he also had the understanding this world has of that same knowledge. So you will say that there were no people before Adam and Eve but not so. The light was formed but before that darkness was on the face of the deep. This means there were people but not considered man because as of yet they were still in that great sea of in iniquity, the deep are in deep sleep because of their sinful nature, they are considered the creasures of the deep but still people. Adam was created and taken from the earth to tend the garden. The garden is the place where the seed of faith, the word of God and his righteousness is cultivated and the trees were were people that bare the fruit of knowledge. Just like with Peter. Jesus said he had the keys to his church but yet when his thoughts were worldly, he said he would never let Jesus die and Jesus said, behind me Satan. Doesn't mean Peter was Satan, it means he had an understanding of those events which was of this world and evil. Jesus even said to his people, you being evil know haw to give good gifts to your children, how much greater will you father in heaven give to you. See, right there he said it, you being evil . This world and its understanding of God is Evil. Even though they think not but it is.
  So it is not that God created a tree with the fruit of good and evil. It is the word of God is cultivated in the place known as the garden and just like Jesus and his disciples, Peter, even the rock, mixed in with the beast so that in time, the Lord can harvest a crop of people to call his own and call them out of it. People that have learned to overcome the temptation this world has to offer in its understanding of the word of God.

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Re: Why Did God Create the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2013, 01:01:32 AM »
   The tree of knowledge of good and evil is a tree that bares that fruit, the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. People are as trees because they root themselves in the word of God and the fruit they bare is knowledge. The knowledge of God, the father above is good but the knowledge of this world is evil. So it wasn't that Satan was a snake in that tree but that person had the knowledge of God but he also had the understanding this world has of that same knowledge. So you will say that there were no people before Adam and Eve but not so. The light was formed but before that darkness was on the face of the deep. This means there were people but not considered man because as of yet they were still in that great sea of in iniquity, the deep are in deep sleep because of their sinful nature, they are considered the creasures of the deep but still people. Adam was created and taken from the earth to tend the garden. The garden is the place where the seed of faith, the word of God and his righteousness is cultivated and the trees were were people that bare the fruit of knowledge. Just like with Peter. Jesus said he had the keys to his church but yet when his thoughts were worldly, he said he would never let Jesus die and Jesus said, behind me Satan. Doesn't mean Peter was Satan, it means he had an understanding of those events which was of this world and evil. Jesus even said to his people, you being evil know haw to give good gifts to your children, how much greater will you father in heaven give to you. See, right there he said it, you being evil . This world and its understanding of God is Evil. Even though they think not but it is.
  So it is not that God created a tree with the fruit of good and evil. It is the word of God is cultivated in the place known as the garden and just like Jesus and his disciples, Peter, even the rock, mixed in with the beast so that in time, the Lord can harvest a crop of people to call his own and call them out of it. People that have learned to overcome the temptation this world has to offer in its understanding of the word of God.

 
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So you will say that there were no people before Adam and Eve but not so. The light was formed but before that darkness was on the face of the deep. This means there were people but not considered man because as of yet they were still in that great sea of in iniquity, the deep are in deep sleep because of their sinful nature, they are considered the creasures of the deep but still people. Adam was created and taken from the earth to tend the garden.

thats an interesting concept colin

so you would say there were beings before Adam and Eve....  that is those who were in iniquity

So are you saying that mankind good and bad were before the creation of flesh ?

Re: Why Did God Create the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2013, 04:40:39 AM »


thats an interesting concept colin

so you would say there were beings before Adam and Eve....  that is those who were in iniquity

So are you saying that mankind good and bad were before the creation of flesh ?

   No, I'm not saying mankind, good and evil were before. No one is good but the Father in heaven. There were the beast of the field, the birds of the air, the trees with the seed within itself. They are not talking about animals, birds, herbs and trees. Its talking about people. Just as seeds must die and be planted , the word and its seed of faith also is planted in the earth but it isn't earth,its an earthly understanding after the waters are receided and earth appears. When Jesus was baptized and the Holy Spirit was coming to him like a dove, you talking about signs and wonders, that is the sign that the waters have abated or been pushed back. The second Adam , Jesus tended the garden and planted seeds and you can see the disciples as trees when he healed the blind man. But it takes a second wash for the truth to be revealed and for the man to have eyes to see the things of God. People with the mark of the beast are the beast created threw the word but yet they are all meat for the son. Because he understands. You say there will be marrage in heaven but heaven is within you when you have cast out the unclean spirits with the spirit of God and killed the beast within yourself. You say we are naked before God but if this was so you would never have read the bible because it is what clothes you. And this from the time of Adam. Wisdom, understanding and righteousness are the three main robes and without these you are clothed with the skins of animals as the understanding is as the beast. For you to say you could be naked before God is saying you are without sin yet we are sinners and to be washed in his blood is to be washed in the truth.

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Re: Why Did God Create the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2013, 10:24:27 PM »
   No, I'm not saying mankind, good and evil were before. No one is good but the Father in heaven. There were the beast of the field, the birds of the air, the trees with the seed within itself. They are not talking about animals, birds, herbs and trees. Its talking about people. Just as seeds must die and be planted , the word and its seed of faith also is planted in the earth but it isn't earth,its an earthly understanding after the waters are receided and earth appears. When Jesus was baptized and the Holy Spirit was coming to him like a dove, you talking about signs and wonders, that is the sign that the waters have abated or been pushed back. The second Adam , Jesus tended the garden and planted seeds and you can see the disciples as trees when he healed the blind man. But it takes a second wash for the truth to be revealed and for the man to have eyes to see the things of God. People with the mark of the beast are the beast created threw the word but yet they are all meat for the son. Because he understands. You say there will be marrage in heaven but heaven is within you when you have cast out the unclean spirits with the spirit of God and killed the beast within yourself. You say we are naked before God but if this was so you would never have read the bible because it is what clothes you. And this from the time of Adam. Wisdom, understanding and righteousness are the three main robes and without these you are clothed with the skins of animals as the understanding is as the beast. For you to say you could be naked before God is saying you are without sin yet we are sinners and to be washed in his blood is to be washed in the truth.

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You say we are naked before God but if this was so you would never have read the bible because it is what clothes you. And this from the time of Adam. Wisdom, understanding and righteousness are the three main robes and without these you are clothed with the skins of animals as the understanding is as the beast. For you to say you could be naked before God is saying you are without sin yet we are sinners and to be washed in his blood is to be washed in the truth.

Wisdom, understanding and righteousness as the three main robes

And salvation of course   :)

interesting I,ll have to read this again and try to see

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Re: Why Did God Create the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2013, 10:27:57 PM »
So  Adam and Eve were ashamed 

this verse comes to me

Hebrews 4:13

Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before
 the eyes of him to whom we must give account.


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