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The Kingdom of Heaven
« on: June 18, 2012, 02:52:08 AM »

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   The kingdom of heaven is like that great treasure hidden in the field. The word of God is written in parables and it is said Jesus allways spoke to the people in parables, all except his disciples who where given to know the secrets of the Kingdom. The spiritual understanding is the thing hidden and the word is written in the field and this world. The Spiritual teachings are the Kingdom of heaven and They who abides there , belong there. Jesus is that great perl hidden in the field. The spiritual teachings are your riches you store up in heaven where no man can steel.



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Re: The Kingdom of Heaven
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2012, 07:04:59 AM »
Bless you Colin.
Again I say..I DO read all your posts...I just don't always answer with a comment :)

By the way...you don't 'have' to restrict yourself to this one section, ( I know you like it and you are comfortable here  ;)
We also miss your comments  in some of the other Topics too.

Blessings....H

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Re: The Kingdom of Heaven
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2012, 07:47:23 AM »
Bless you Colin.
Again I say..I DO read all your posts...I just don't always answer with a comment :)

By the way...you don't 'have' to restrict yourself to this one section, ( I know you like it and you are comfortable here  ;)
We also miss your comments  in some of the other Topics too.

Blessings....H


My sentiments exactly.
I'm not opposed to you per se Colin.
Just would like to see you allowing God to 'speak' through the scriptures without obliging him never to have 'spoken' in face value words.
But that's just my personal preference as usual.


Re: The Kingdom of Heaven
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2012, 01:28:28 PM »
    The heavens are spread out like a tent curtain and God's house is the house of tents and those on the inside behind the curtains are abiding in the kingdom of heaven but those of the outside are of this world. The door to the heavens are as a gate and the going up and down the ladder is the same as going in and out the gate freely. The gates are the gates of learning as the teachings of heaven are gated in. It is inside the gates that God's faithfullness is cultivated and God's righteousness is the light.

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Re: The Kingdom of Heaven
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2012, 05:34:56 PM »
My sentiments exactly.
I'm not opposed to you per se Colin.
Just would like to see you allowing God to 'speak' through the scriptures without obliging him never to have 'spoken' in face value words.
But that's just my personal preference as usual.


From my own experience with Colin, Mike, I do not believe that he has completely thrown out the "face value", at least, not the "face value", which actually does have "value" in the eyes of God. Certainly, at times, there is, I believe, a "value" there, but most people are able to discern the beneficial nature of the literal things described. Even atheists will sometimes give credit to the literal meanings to the words of scripture when applied to the carnal ways of men.

Colin is giving for "whosoever will" that which God has showed him, which are things that many men never have and never will see.  To understand Colin, when he is giving us something that is not only "face value", it requires the assistance of God's Spirit. When we are interested and the message pertains to us, we will receive also any additional tools needed to understand what "thus saith the Lord" through Colin or through anyone else.

Colin's gift does not relate to the understanding of Martha, but to the understanding of Mary. Jesus did appreciate what Martha sought to do, but he made it clear that Mary had chosen something better. So, I believe, has Colin. Let us all rejoice in that!

Alien-R

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Re: The Kingdom of Heaven
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2014, 01:32:45 AM »
I'm not sure whether the disciples actually understood it

John 13:7

What light did they have ? apart from following the light

The Light of the world only  shows the path in front day by day

God will only show us what He wants to show

We only understand  as we have the ability to understand

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Mysterious Revelation
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2014, 03:12:42 PM »
Mysterious Revelation


Matthew 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

And see :  Collossians 1:26 - Ephesians 3:4 -

And so the mysteries of parables and pictures are revealed to the Disciples but
not after much seeking

The disciples could only see day to day and the Light of the world revealing to them only dawned once it was done

It takes time and seeking to understand and this is the faithwalk of following God in Jesus

Other prophetic words they did not understand straight away were

John 12:15?Do not be afraid, Daughter Zion;see, your king is coming,seated on a donkey?s colt.?


The Disciples did not understand this statement  see : John 12:16

What did they not understand ?

Concerning the resurrection which was spoken of in times of old  and prophesied all through the Old Testament

Mark 9:32  But they did not understand what he meant and were afraid to ask him about it.

The Jews did not understand what Jesus meant at the time

35The Jews said to one another, ?Where does this man intend to go that we cannot find him?  Will he go where our people live scattered among the Greeks, and teach the Greeks? 36What did  he mean when he said, ?You will look for me, but you will not find me,? and ?Where I am, you  cannot come???

They did not understand even though it was revealed to them and even though
spoken of time and time again in scripture

Neither did the disciples understand about Judas Iscariot  John 13:21-29

Jesus replied, ?You do not realize now what I am doing, but later you will understand John 13:7-19

And we could go on and on throughout scripture and see how the followers of Jesus did not understand what was happening or was about to happen

In the same way I might have a dream but not understand the meaning of the dream or a  Prophesy or a word or a vision....but not understand its meaning

This in turn causes me to seek God and in turn draws me to Him so that He would reveal the mystery to me

And so we end with Proverbs 25:2

It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings.

Even then we can get it wrong and misinterpret the meaning revealed

Alien-R

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Re: The Kingdom of Heaven
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2014, 01:44:08 PM »
 
   The kingdom of heaven is like that great treasure hidden in the field. The word of God is written
in parables and it is said Jesus allways spoke to the people in parables, all except his disciples who
 where given to know the secrets of the Kingdom. The spiritual understanding is the thing hidden
and the word is written in the field and this world. The Spiritual teachings are the Kingdom of
heaven and They who abides there , belong there. Jesus is that great perl hidden in the field.
The spiritual teachings are your riches you store up in heaven where no man can steel.

Matthew 13:44 "The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in the field.

And so we see that in order to find the hidden treasure, we must dig and that means seeking

Not a one time thing, where we seek and find Jesus and thats the end of the story...but a seeking for answers that lasts a lifetime

The secrets of the Kingdom may be given to His Disciples, but we have to unwrap these things and find what is inside and then use them to understand their purpose

Then the outworking of that is stored in God

Indeed this parable is not about us , but instead it is talking about the Kingdom of God and God

THE TREASURE see : Matthew 13:45

The treasure is the "scriptures" in which we delve and find and pull out ...see : Proverbs 2:2-5   Romans 15:4 For whatever things were written aforetime were written for our learning

And the source of the "Word" is Colossians 2:3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

But the meaning here of the Treasure is the scriptures



THE PEARL : see Matthew 13:45

The Pearl is the Price paid for those chosen or those chosen [but not yet revealed]

Hence Christ paid the Price / the ransom and layed down His life

Hence we are far more valuable and this relates to the sheep that went astray

See : Matthew 18:12 "What do you think? If a man owns a hundred sheep



THE DRAGNET  : See Matthew 13:47

Is the working between God and His workers spreading out into the world

And through to Matthew 13:50

This incorporates the separation of the catch [ not those left] BUT those caught

In the same way  fishermen haul up a catch and then separate the different types
and throw some back  Matthew 13:48


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