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« Reply #64 on: August 08, 2023, 02:33:47 PM »
Why Death Is The Wages Of Sin

This is an interesting mystery because relatively few sins listed in the covenant that
Moses' people agreed upon with God per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and
Deuteronomy merit capital punishment let alone the Lake Of Fire depicted by Rev

It's my educated guess that the penalty is so severe because Man was created in
the image and likeness of God.

For example: according to Gen 9:5-6, murderers deserve capital punishment-- not
because murder is wrong per se, rather --because the image and likeness of God
lends Man a degree of honor and dignity as near the honor and dignity of God that
a creature can possibly get. (Jas 3:9)

Had God brought Man into existence as just another organic species like meerkats,
lobsters, chickens, and microbes; then Man's conduct would likely be so
insignificant in regard to justice as to not even be worth God's notice. But the
image and likeness of God makes Man a near-deity and thus magnifies the
consequences of his actions.

The image and likeness of God is definitely a status to be grateful for, but at the
same time, it's definitely a status to fear.

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« Reply #65 on: August 09, 2023, 06:15:20 PM »
Canaan's Curse

The curse on Canaan wasn't personal, i.e. it was more or less collateral damage due
to his dad's indiscretions per Gen 9:26-27

Canaan's fate seems terribly unfair to be caught in the middle like that, but it
wasn't the only time a man's posterity was effected by his conduct. For example
God dealt in a similar way with the evil king Jeconiah (Jer 22:29-30) and of course
Adam. (Rom 5:12)

Compare Ex 34:6-7 wherein is stated:

"Then The Lord passed by in front of Moses and proclaimed: The Lord, The Lord
God, compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in loving-kindness
and truth; who keeps loving-kindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity,
transgression and sin; yet He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished: visiting
the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and
fourth generations."

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« Reply #66 on: August 10, 2023, 02:25:50 PM »
Why God "Came Down" To Inspect The Tower Of Babel

Gen 11:5 . . Jehovah came down to look at the city and tower that man had built

That verse presents an interesting theological mystery. Wouldn't it make better
sense by saying Jehovah looked down, instead of saying He "came" down? Why
bother to come down? Doesn't the Bible's God see all and know all? Isn't God
omniscient and isn't His spirit omnipresent? Can't He see everything from right
where He is?

Well; fact of the matter is, yes, Jehovah could see the city and the tower from
Heaven, but He wasn't satisfied. It was His wish to inspect everything up close and
personal; to actually visit the city and the tower in person as an on-site eye
witness. He did it that way again with Sodom and Gomorrah.

Gen 18:21 . . I will go down to see whether they have acted altogether according
to the outcry that has reached Me; if not, I will take note.

Why bother to go down? Doesn't the Bible's God see all and know all? Isn't God
omniscient and isn't His spirit omnipresent? Can't He see everything from right
where He is?

Well; fact of the matter is, yes, Jehovah could see and hear from Heaven
everything he needed to know about Sodom, but He wasn't satisfied. He had to
investigate, and establish the truth of every fact for Himself in person as an on-site
eye witness, before moving against the city.

In future, should someone challenge the Lord by saying: How do you know Sodom
was bad? Were you there; did you actually see it yourself? Well; yes, He was there
and did actually see its bad for Himself.

And then there's the offering of Isaac.

Gen 22:11-12 . .Then an angel of God called to him from heaven: Abraham!
Abraham! And he answered: Here I am. And he said: Do not raise your hand
against the lad, or do anything to him. For now I know that you fear God, since you
have not withheld your son, your favored one, from me.

Isn't God omniscient, and doesn't He have an ability to scan the future? Then why
did the voice say "now I know". Doesn't God always know everything there is to

Yes; but knowing things as a spectator is quite a bit different than knowing things
by omniscience. God sometimes favors seeing things for Himself in real time, as an

Of course God knew in advance that Abraham would go thru with offering his son,
but that kind of knowing doesn't always satisfy God. No, sometimes He prefers to
be on-site and observe things unfold as current events.

So although God knew by His intellect that Abraham would comply with the angel's
instructions, now He also has a first-hand knowledge of Abraham's compliance by
personal experience, i.e. God, via the angel, was there in the bleachers, so to
speak, watching all the live action from first to last.

NOTE: Some of the ancient rabbis were baffled by these passages as they seem to
imply there are two Jehovahs. So they surnamed one of them Metatron: a celestial
being whose name is his master's. Roughly speaking; Metatron is authorized to
speak for God, speak as God, be spoken to as God; and be worshipped, obeyed,
and respected as God.

No human has seen or heard the real God at any time (John 1:18, John 5:37, and
1Tim 6:16). Till Christ came along; Metatron was the closest that humanity ever
came to associating with the ultimate supreme being.

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« Reply #67 on: August 11, 2023, 03:30:56 PM »
Jeconiah's Curse

A curse, back in the Old Testament, leveled at a really bad king in Solomon's royal
line to David's throne reads like this:

Jer 22:29-30 . . O land, land, land, hear the word of The Lord! Thus said The
Lord: Record this man as without succession, one who shall never be found
acceptable; for no man of his offspring shall be accepted to sit on the throne of
David and to rule again in Judah.

The bad king's name was Jeconiah (a.k.a. Jehoiakim and/or Coniah). Jesus' dad
Joseph was one of his descendants. (Matt 1:11)

It's commonly believed that the curse extended to Joseph, so that had he been
Jesus' biological father, it would have prevented Mary's boy from ascending David's

However, Joseph adopted Jesus and seeing as how adopted children inherit from
their fathers the same as biological children; then had the curse extended to
Joseph, it would have extended to Jesus too whether he was virgin-conceived or
not. In other words: seeing as how Jesus got into Solomon's royal line by adoption,
then of course he would've got into the curse too because the throne and the curse
were a package deal.

However; the wording "to rule again in Judah" indicates that the curse on
Jeconiah's royal progeny was limited to the era of the divided kingdom with
Samaria in the north and Judah in the south. That situation came to an end when
Nebuchadnezzar crushed the whole country and led first Samaria, and then later
Judah, off to Babylonian slavery.

When Messiah reigns, the country of Israel will be unified. His jurisdiction won't be
limited to Judah within a divided kingdom, but will dominate the entire land of
Israel. So the curse doesn't apply to him.

Ezek 37:21-22 . .You shall declare to them: Thus said the Lord God: I am going
to take the Israelite people from among the nations they have gone to, and gather
them from every quarter, and bring them to their own land. I will make them a
single nation in the land, on the hills of Israel, and one king shall be king of them
all. Never again shall they be two nations, and never again shall they be divided
into two kingdoms.

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« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2023, 05:22:44 PM »
Matt 22:42-45

* The above is a reference to Ps 110:1 which Jesus interpreted speaking of Christ,
a.k.a. Messiah.

"The Lord says to my lord: Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a
footstool for your feet".

There's two distinctly different Hebrew words translated by the English word "lord"
in that passage

The first is Jehovah (a.k.a. Yahweh); which is a name restricted to God's use. (Isa

The second is 'adown, which is a common word for superiors in the Old Testament;
both human and divine, for instance: Sarah referred to her husband as 'adown.
(Gen 18:12) The people of Heth addressed Abraham as 'adown. (Gen 23:5-6)
Abraham's trusted servant referred to him as 'adown. (Gen 24:12) Rachel
addressed her father Laban as 'adown. (Gen 31:35) Jacob addressed Esau as
'adown. (Gen 33:8) And God is spoken of as 'adown too, e.g. Isa 1:24 and Isa 3:1
et al.

Jesus' interpretation of Ps 110:1 says Christ is superior to David, which is normally
unthinkable seeing as the covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God ranks
parents above their children. (Ex 20:12, cf. Eph 6:2)

Now, the thing is: David has no peers relative to kings on earth, seeing as he was
given the rank of God's firstborn son in that respect.

Ps 89:20-27 . . I have found My servant David; with My holy oil I have anointed
him . . I will make him My firstborn, the highest of the kings of the earth.

So, in order for one of David's sons to outrank their father, the son would have to
be God's firstborn son in Heaven, viz: David's son would have to be a divine being.
(cf. Acts 2:32-36)

The theologians of Jesus' day knew the Old Testament practically word for word,
but they couldn't always explain it. No doubt they were aware that Psalm 110
speaks of David's son, and that he would be superior to David, and that he would
be a divine being. I'm pretty sure they knew all that. But what they hadn't as yet
figured out is how this one particular man from among David's posterity could
possibly become so incredibly exalted.

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« Reply #69 on: August 13, 2023, 02:12:43 PM »
Abraham's Wife/Half Sister

Gen 20:11-12 . . Abraham replied: I said to myself; "There is surely no fear of
God in this place, and they will kill me because of my wife." Besides, she really is
my sister, the daughter of my father though not of my mother; and she became my

FAQ: How was it right for Abraham to marry his sister when God forbids such a

REPLY: A law of God prohibiting marriage with a half sister wasn't instituted until many
years later in Lev 18:9, and according to Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15, Rom 5:13, and Gal
3:17 that law isn't retroactive.

NOTE: Inbreeding hasn't always been dangerous. For example Adam married a
woman that was constructed with material taken from his own body, and the
children of Noah's three sons married among themselves after the Flood.

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« Reply #70 on: August 14, 2023, 04:11:24 PM »

A couple of Greek words are translated redemption.

One is lutrosis (loo'-tro-sis) which means a ransoming.

The other is apolutrosis (ap-ol-oo'-tro-sis) which means to ransom in full.

Webster's defines "ransom" as:

1_  A consideration paid or demanded for the release of someone or something
from captivity

2_  The act of paying the consideration.

In the divine scheme, Christ is the payer; and the life of his body is the
consideration; plus. according to apolutrosis, his life isn't a down payment, rather:
the entire sum demanded, leaving no balance outstanding.

FAQ: Who/What is the captor?

REPLY: One's own history of impious conduct: past, present, and future. It's like a
ball and chain; only worse. There's a reckoning looming on the horizon where folks
still attached to their ball and chain will face justice at the great white throne event
depicted at Rev 20:11-15.

The best news I ever heard was when I discovered Jesus' father was thinking of me
when His son went to the cross; thus giving me an opportunity to get my record
swept and kept blank so that when the books are opened, there will be nothing
listed there with which to charge me: like I've only been 100% innocent my
entire life.

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« Reply #71 on: August 15, 2023, 02:35:00 PM »

Rom 4:25 . . He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for
our justification.

The Greek word translated "justification" in that passage means acquittal; roughly
defined as an adjudication of innocence due to lack of sufficient evidence to convict,
viz: exoneration.

To give a rough hewn idea of how this plays out: according to Rev 20:11-15, God is
keeping books on everyone wherein is inventoried their entire life.

Were those books to be opened to the pages wherein is supposed to be an
inventory of the life of someone who managed to obtain the justification available
by means of Christ's death and resurrection, those pages would be missing because
when someone obtains the justification, God closes their case and it's never
reopened-- not because it's a cold case, but because all charges against them were
dropped, i.e. transferred to Christ.

Isa 53:6 . .We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own
way; and The Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

2Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ, reconciling the world to Himself, not counting
their trespasses against them

Rom 8:33-34 . .Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen?
It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns; Christ Jesus, who died?


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