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Offline OutWest

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About The Water Of Life
« on: May 16, 2023, 04:32:59 PM »
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Rev 22:17 . .The Spirit and the bride say: Come, and let him who hears say:
Come. Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the
free gift of the water of life.

Let's say a secular person, having no preconceived concepts of either Christianity or
Judaism, reads the book of Revelation and finds that verse. How are they supposed
to respond to the invitation? Where would a sincere inquirer go to even find this so
called water of life, let alone imbibe it?
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Re: The Water Of Life
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2023, 10:40:55 AM »
Hi Outwest
Thank you for your question maybe the answers in the text the spirit and the bride say come that is the bride of Christ who has the Spirit and have recorded the word of God and preached the gospel.
Jest by reading an odd word of scripture would not mean a great deal to an unbeliever they need to be instructed and this is best done by word of mouth so we should never be afraid of speaking out in the company of unbelievers we never know when what we say may awaken their curiosity and they pick up their bible to check to see if what you have said is right and then they continue reading and when they get to the verse you quoted they would have a pretty good understanding of what it means.

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Re: The Water Of Life
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2023, 01:24:40 PM »
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Well; were the secular reader keenly attuned to the book of Revelation, they
would've noted back in the first verse of chapter 22 that the water of life isn't
located anywhere on Earth; which makes it even more difficult to access than that
of Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade.
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Re: The Water Of Life
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2023, 05:38:00 PM »
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Rev 22:17 . .The Spirit and the bride say "Come" and let him who hears say
"Come". Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the
free gift of the water of life.

That passage contains instructions for "him who hears" so then I think we can
safely assume that when him who hears invites someone to come and take the
water of life; they're supposed to be capable of explaining how to go about it so the
inquirer isn't left flapping in the wind trying to figure it out on their own.

In the fourth chapter of John's gospel is an incident wherein Jesus discussed a living
water. I don't know for sure if the living water and the water of life are the same
water but if they are, then it's available on request, as it should be: after all; it's a
free gift.

John 4:10 . . If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink,
you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.
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Re: The Water Of Life
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2023, 11:28:16 PM »
Maybe as the Tree of Life's saplings, the Bride, you need to be showing that you have this water of life, so the thirsty know their thirst is gonna be quenched.
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Re: The Water Of Life
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2023, 02:51:05 AM »
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Maybe as the Tree of Life's saplings

I much prefer to be one of Jesus' sheep because of his all-out determination to
please God; for instance:

"This is the will of the one who sent me; that I should not lose anything of what He
gave me." (John 6:39)

One of the many things that God gives His son is sheep. (John 10:27-30)

Now, whether the sheep like it or not, they're struck with the good shepherd
because Jesus always satisfies his Father's wants.

"My food is to do the will of Him who sent me and to finish His work." (John 4:34)

"I always do what is pleasing to Him." (John 8:29)

Were Christ to fail-- in any way at all --accomplishing the will of the one who sent
him; then it would be dishonest of Christ to claim to "always" please God. Christ
might be able to claim pleasing the one who sent him a high percentage of the
time, but certainly not always.

Bottom line: The good shepherd's will trumps the sheep's will. (It would be a pretty
dim-witted wrangler that lets the wants of a herd overrule him; as if animal
husbandry were somehow democratic. HAW!)

"You are not your own; you were bought at a price." (1Cor 6:19-20)

FAQ: What if a sheep decides to leave Jesus' flock and follow somebody else instead?

REPLY: Assuming the sheep is one of the sheep that God gave His son to keep,
then no soap. Regardless of what the sheep think, feel, say, or do; once they're
brought into the sheepfold, they're stuck.

"I am the gate; whoever enters through me shall be saved." (John 10:9)

Were Christ a so-so shepherd; then he wouldn't dare say "shall be" saved; no, he'd
have to tone it down a bit and say "can be" saved. That would leave him some
room for error. But when Christ says "shall be" he's claiming a 0.0% failure rate.
That's how confident Christ is that he will lose nothing of what his Father has given
him.

Cattle ranchers whose livestock roam on BLM lands, typically brand their stock for
easy identification later on at round-up. Well; God doesn't brand the good
shepherd's sheep but He does mark them.

"In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation,
and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit. (Eph 1:13)

The Greek word translated "seal" basically refers to the impression that a signet
ring leaves in wax and/or soft clay.

Well; the good shepherd's sheep might wander far and wide and even attempt to
blend in with another flock, but any and all attempts to escape and/or repudiate
their rightful owner are futile. That seal will always give them away as belonging to
the good shepherd and it's only a matter of time before he comes looking for his
investment.

It's important to know that the sheep's safety isn't based upon their willingness to
comply with the shepherd's wants; no, their safety is based upon the good
shepherd's determination to comply with his Father's wants; a determination
proven by blood.

"I lay down my life for the sheep." (John 10:15)

Were the good shepherd only human, then I would be inclined to agree with
skeptics that Jesus might fail to keep his sheep safe. But the Bible teaches that
Christ is not only human, but also the divine architect of the entire cosmos with all
of its forms of life, matter, and energy (John 1:1-3, Col 1:16-17). So then, the
good shepherd has at his disposal all the powers and abilities of the supreme being
to utilize in order to succeed at keeping his sheep on the books.

"No one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is
greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand." (John 10:27
29)
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Re: The Water Of Life
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2023, 03:15:44 AM »
For sure you are right.  I do like your way of words. 

Will just say in this instance, so you understand where my brain went...I used the word sapling purely from the Tree of Life reference in that chapter and also had my mind think of how in the Bible we are referred to as trees planted by the river.  Leaves always green, always bearing fruit.  Flip to the Rev quote of leaves healing the nation (helping those thirsting).  Always bearing fruit...you shall know them by their fruit.  Spirit is always drawing back towards spirit like a magnet, the thirsting.  Anyway I don't want to derail your thread, I appreciate my replies on it,  are not exactly practicalities of christianity your OP was possibly looking for.

Psalm 1 and

But blessed is the one who trusts in the LORD, whose confidence is in him. They will be like a tree planted by the water that sends out its roots by the stream. It does not fear when heat comes; its leaves are always green. It has no worries in a year of drought and never fails to bear fruit? (Jeremiah 17:7-8).
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Re: The Water Of Life
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2023, 06:28:24 PM »
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Rev 22:1-2a . . Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear
as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb down the middle of the
great street of the city.

I think we may safely assume that the flow of this particular river will never be in
danger of drought; but will remain a source of life for just as long as the throne of
God exists; which of course it always has, it always is, and it always will be to time
without end.

Now; when Adam was created, he was given the breath of life; but not the water of
life. The breath of life enabled him to become sentient, but not everlasting. In point
of fact, the breath of life didn't even make Adam immune to death. Obviously then;
the quality of the water of life is quite a bit superior to the breath of life; and also
superior to the tree of life too which, as it turns out, is merely a remedy for whatever
ails you; including, apparently, the aging process. (Rev 22:2b, cf. Gen 3:22)
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