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Re: Evolution
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2022, 01:07:24 PM »

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Thank you for your reply that everything was created over long periods of time I don't  have a problem with and we have to remember Genesis was written for a primitive people trying to tell them life came into being over millions of years in small stages after the style of evolution would not work.

Then we have the first verse of Genesis

      1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth         

What was the period of time between  verse 1 and 2 we are not told could well be millions of years the same applies between verses 2 and 3 and 3 and 4 then from the beginning of day 4 we hit the problem of the evening and mornings indicating a 24 hour day then we have

      2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day       

So we can see there is case to made for long periods of time  in Genesis

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Re: Evolution
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2022, 02:08:30 PM »
" The evolutionists have proven, and continue to prove that Darwin was right, " quote.

There are two meanings to the word evolution.
One where it simply  means change.
The other, which is the meaning being used here, is change based on genetic information that the parents don't have.

The first meaning is often used as ' supposed  ' proff of evolution, when all it is, is change supported by genetic variation.

That said I look forward to reading the prove of the second meaning of the word evolution.

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Re: Evolution
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2022, 04:20:14 PM »
Hi
Just did a quick google and found this site

https://www.livescience.com/1804-greatest-mysteries-life-arise-earth.html

What I gathered was there is no definite answer worth a read  so is evolution a belief system

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Re: Evolution
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2022, 01:10:41 PM »
Hi @davetaff

No, Darwin?s theory is not a belief system.  Evolution as he observed, is still ongoing, but you don?t have to believe it.  It?ll still happen whether you believe it or not.  As for what kicked it all off, the article is right, lots of evidence of something, but no conclusions, however, one part doesn?t necessarily cancel out the validity of it all.  It?s 2 completely different sciences.

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Re: Evolution
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2022, 10:55:05 AM »
Hi @davetaff

No, Darwin?s theory is not a belief system.  Evolution as he observed, is still ongoing, but you don?t have to believe it.  It?ll still happen whether you believe it or not.  As for what kicked it all off, the article is right, lots of evidence of something, but no conclusions, however, one part doesn?t necessarily cancel out the validity of it all.  It?s 2 completely different sciences.

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Hi Tara
Thank you for your reply the question is are we witnessing Darwins evolution or Gods creation I believe the latter.
Evolution is a theory and as such needs to be proven by facts the question it needs to answer is can life create its self out of dead matter.
The bible says that God created all life forms which makes a lot more sense that life originated from life.
The problem we have with Genesis is it has been taught as something that happend thousands of years ago when in fact I believe it covers the history of mankind from the beginning the time of Noah after the flood to the end of creation which is Jesus Christ at his second coming this the end of creation man in the image of God.
If I am right then what happend before the flood and how long it took dose not matter because God destroyed it in flood and began a new creation of man in his image which would take 6 days 1000 years long the end of this creation is Jesus Christ he is the only person in the whole of scripture who is said to be in the image of God.

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Re: Evolution
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2022, 01:55:56 PM »
Hi @davetaff ,

I explained to you in a previous post what the term ?theory? means in science terms, yet here you are probably a couple of years later trotting out the same Ill-informed arguments, not to mention taking the opportunity to,  repeat your personal Genesis ?theory?.  You seem to manage to wangle that into every topic - you should?ve been a politician lol. 

As far as Darwin?s theory of evolution I stand by what I originally said
The evolutionists have proven, and continue to prove that Darwin was right, more or less.   The problem is what?s conceived as proof.  Most believers will not believe what?s been found out despite overwhelming physical evidence, because it?s not in the Bible.  It?s an argument which cannot be resolved under these circumstances.

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Re: Evolution
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2022, 04:07:43 PM »
Hi @davetaff ,

I explained to you in a previous post what the term ?theory? means in science terms, yet here you are probably a couple of years later trotting out the same Ill-informed arguments, not to mention taking the opportunity to,  repeat your personal Genesis ?theory?.  You seem to manage to wangle that into every topic - you should?ve been a politician lol. 

As far as Darwin?s theory of evolution I stand by what I originally said
The evolutionists have proven, and continue to prove that Darwin was right, more or less.   The problem is what?s conceived as proof.  Most believers will not believe what?s been found out despite overwhelming physical evidence, because it?s not in the Bible.  It?s an argument which cannot be resolved under these circumstances.

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Hi Tara
Thank you for your reply its pretty simple really if Darwin is right then there is no God so we can bin our bibles and eat drink and be merry then die so Darwin has to be wrong that God has created over long periods of time I don't have a problem with but what I do know how ever he done it he is responsible for all life on this planet and the life to come.
as for my creation account the whole of scripture is about God creating he tells us this

Isa 46:10  declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, ?My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,?        

The beginning is the creation account in Genesis  the end is Man in the Image of God which is Jesus Christ at his second Coming pretty simple really I think we should read Genesis after revelations its the history of mankind but God tells it to us in advance.

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The evolutionists have proven, and continue to prove that Darwin was right, more or less.       

More or less don't do it for me I need something definite as I believe in God  then Gods word is final

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Re: Evolution
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2022, 09:55:40 PM »
Hi @davetaff ,

You?ve perfectly proven my point. 😝

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