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Re: The Myth of saying that God Loved all men in the world without exception !
« Reply #112 on: December 08, 2021, 01:21:47 PM »
All those God Loved have something in common with one another, that those God does not love do not have !

First they were Chosen in Christ before the world began, they were all Loved from everlasting Jer 31:3

Secondly, they have Christ as their Surety and Covenant Head from Everlasting !


Third, they have a accomplished redemption !

Fourthly, They receive the Gift of Eternal Life !

Fifth, They are quickened out of being dead in trespasses and sins Eph 2:5

Lastly, they will Love God Rom 8:28; 1 Jn 4:9

We love him, because he first loved us.

I recall Jesus saying to some jews this Jn 8:42

Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

God's Love to a person shall causes that person to Love God and Christ !

So whoever dies in this condition 1 Cor 16:22

If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.


That person was never Loved by God !

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Re: The Myth of saying that God Loved all men in the world without exception !
« Reply #113 on: December 08, 2021, 01:55:01 PM »
Hi Brightfame52
Thank you for your reply but if you are right you have condemned over 90% of the human population to the lake of fire I believe the the God I love can do a lot better than that.

       Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob

    Isa 45:17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end         


Israel is back in its own land all we need now is for Israel to accept Christ as their Messiah then Israel and Christians shall become one and all Israel will be saved and thats a lot more than those who are chosen.

    Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen       

when God arose to establish judgment, to save all the humble of the earth. Selah
Psalm 76:9 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/psa.76.9.ESV


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Re: The Myth of saying that God Loved all men in the world without exception !
« Reply #114 on: December 09, 2021, 01:19:30 PM »

If God Loved us !

2 Thess 2:16-17

16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,

17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

If God Loved all men without exception as false religion says, then all men without exception should by God be given [not offered] everlasting consolation and good hope through Grace !

The basis of these gifts is the Love of God. Those God Loves He gives Eternal Comfort and Good Hope.81

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Re: The Myth of saying that God Loved all men in the world without exception !
« Reply #115 on: December 09, 2021, 01:20:36 PM »
Hi Brightfame52
Thank you for your reply but if you are right you have condemned over 90% of the human population to the lake of fire I believe the the God I love can do a lot better than that.

       Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob

    Isa 45:17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end         


Israel is back in its own land all we need now is for Israel to accept Christ as their Messiah then Israel and Christians shall become one and all Israel will be saved and thats a lot more than those who are chosen.

    Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen       

when God arose to establish judgment, to save all the humble of the earth. Selah
Psalm 76:9 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/psa.76.9.ESV


Love and Peace
Dave

What does Paul say in 1 Cor 16:22 ?
https://bible.com/bible/59/psa.76.9.ESV

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Re: The Myth of saying that God Loved all men in the world without exception !
« Reply #116 on: December 09, 2021, 01:43:15 PM »
What does Paul say in 1 Cor 16:22 ?

Hi Brightfame52
Thank you for your reply as for what Paul said

     21  For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

 22  For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

 23  But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

 24  But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God     


Why preach if only the chosen will be saved then it goes on to say those who are called Jews and Greeks hear the gospel can choose God and be saved.

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Dave


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Re: The Myth of saying that God Loved all men in the world without exception !
« Reply #117 on: December 10, 2021, 06:33:47 PM »
If God Loves everyone without exception as it is falsely preached these days, what does His Love have to do with one being saved ? It would have nothing to do with it, since millions whom God Loved will be tormented forever and ever for their sins. To hear these false teachers tell it, God Loved eternally those, just as much as He did those who shall be Glorified with Him forever !

But scripture is clear that it is because of God's Great Love for His Elect that they are saved Eph 2:4-5

4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )

Those who believe God Loved all men without exception, say this Great Love that saves is powerless to save all whom He Loved !82

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Re: The Myth of saying that God Loved all men in the world without exception !
« Reply #118 on: December 10, 2021, 06:35:17 PM »
Hi Brightfame52
Thank you for your reply as for what Paul said

     21  For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

 22  For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

 23  But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

 24  But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God     


Why preach if only the chosen will be saved then it goes on to say those who are called Jews and Greeks hear the gospel can choose God and be saved.

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Dave

Excuse me. What does  1 Cor 16:22 ? say ?

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Re: The Myth of saying that God Loved all men in the world without exception !
« Reply #119 on: December 11, 2021, 09:28:38 AM »
Excuse me. What does  1 Cor 16:22 ? say ?

Hi Brightfame52
Sorry about that ,mistake the verse says

        22  If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha       

I think this supports what I've been saying if any man dose not love the Lord he is cursed and will not be saved but to know and love the Lord we must have the gospel preached to us and make the choice to love the Lordthe choice to love the Lord lies with us.
But this dose not apply to the elect they have been chosen by God from the foundation of the world as you so rightly say.
I am not saying everyone will be saved but I believe everyone will be given the opportunity through the Gospel to choose to love God repent and be reborn into Christ.

Come Lord Jesus

Love and Peace
Dave

 

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