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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2021, 09:13:47 AM »
Look at the formatting of the text.
In the ESV 1:27 and 9:6 are scripted and indented, 1:26 is not.
In the KJV they all look the same.

I'm feeling very dense about this. What difference does it make to the meaning?
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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2021, 02:15:14 PM »
Hi
for my self I don't think it has Happened yet but will be at the second coming of Christ when he is united with is bride the church this Man ( mankind ) in the image of God creation is ongoing.

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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2021, 08:03:24 AM »
I'm feeling very dense about this. What difference does it make to the meaning?
You're no denser than I am, believe me. In fact probably much cleverer.
I don't know if it changes the meaning but it means something. I suggest it might be prophetic rather than accomplished.
The next verse that uses this format is 2:4 which says
     These are the generations
     of the heavens and the earth
         when they were created,
     in the day that the Lord God
         made the earth and the
         heavens.
But in 1:1 it says In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. It doesn't say it was in a day.
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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2021, 10:48:26 AM »
You're no denser than I am, believe me. In fact probably much cleverer.
I don't know if it changes the meaning but it means something. I suggest it might be prophetic rather than accomplished.

Modern versions print poetic passages in poetic format. The KJV prints everything the same.
This is one reason why i find modern versions much easier to read.
But there's no other significance. In a Hebrew Bible, the whole of Genesis is printed as prose. And the original scrolls wouldn't have made such a distinction either. If you look at pictures of the Dead Sea Scrolls, for example, the writing on them is almost continuous - just the occasional paragraph. Modern formatting is exactly that - modern!


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The next verse that uses this format is 2:4 which says
     These are the generations
     of the heavens and the earth
         when they were created,
     in the day that the Lord God
         made the earth and the
         heavens.
But in 1:1 it says In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. It doesn't say it was in a day.
"In the day that" is just an idiom, and pops up all over the Old Testament. Not necessarily to be taken literally. The NIV translates it simply as "when"!
"The gracious hand of our God is on everyone who looks to Him, but His great anger is on all who forsake Him." (Ezra 8:22)

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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2021, 04:17:20 PM »
Hi
We know that Christ is the last Adam man in the image of God was this at his first advent or will it be at his second I say at his second advent when he is united with his Bride and they become one Christ the head the church his body joined together this is Man ( mankind ) in the image of God.
Man in the image of God is Christ the head and is bride a whole host of people.

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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2021, 06:35:25 AM »
Hi
We know that Christ is the last Adam man in the image of God was this at his first advent or will it be at his second I say at his second advent when he is united with his Bride and they become one Christ the head the church his body joined together this is Man ( mankind ) in the image of God.
Man in the image of God is Christ the head and is bride a whole host of people.

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Gnostic speculation of a peculiar kind: enough to get you branded an outright heretic by the majority of Christendom, on the basis that it involves an implicit denial of Christ the man as the son of God and in the express facsimile of God (Heb 1:3), a denial that Jesus himself (alone) was the Christ, and that man, as in the human race now alive, is made in the image of God.

As one who goes in for extreme biblical pedantry, " I say at his second advent" suggests that what you criticize others for, in departing from scripture, you are guilty of yourself.

Matt 7:1 "Do not judge, or you will be judged. 2For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3Why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?"

Are you trying to set up a new theory of scriptural interpretation, all by yourself? I will answer that question for you: YES. What and where is your authority?

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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2021, 02:37:18 PM »
hi eik
Thank you for your post but I think you need to read your Bible which says

Rev_21:2  And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev_21:9  And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.     

 
the Lambs wife is the new Jerusalem that comes Down from Heaven the body of believers

Rev 21:2  And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 
Rev 21:3  And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.       


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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2021, 08:04:31 PM »
hi eik
Thank you for your post but I think you need to read your Bible which says

Rev_21:2  And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev_21:9  And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.     

 
the Lambs wife is the new Jerusalem that comes Down from Heaven the body of believers

Rev 21:2  And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3  And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.       


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Quite irrelevant to the point I made: "an implicit denial of Christ the man as the son of God and in the express facsimile of God (Heb 1:3), a denial that Jesus himself (alone) was the Christ, and that man, as in the human race now alive, is made in the image of God."

in response to your "We know that Christ is the last Adam man in the image of God was this at his first advent or will it be at his second I say at his second advent"

What man will be does not reduce what man now is, what Christ was, or the application of the bible in the present life. You can't reduce the content of the bible to your gnostic speculation on Revelation. I find your endless dogmatizing on things you are clearly are not qualified to speak on so depressing.

 

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