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Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« on: April 24, 2021, 11:41:18 AM »
I say NO.
The King James Version (much as I love it) glosses over this issue by omitting a key that the ESV (my go-to choice) includes.

If this were the case you would expect the bible to make more of a fuss about it but the only three places that I know of that directly mention this are in three verses, two chapters, and one book.
They are all in Genesis - 1:26, 27, and 9:6. Please have a look at both versions and it will immediately be obvious what I am talking about.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
Has anyone ever been in God's image?
Are we being made or have we been made?
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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2021, 12:03:42 PM »
Sorry, but both versions seem to me to be saying exactly the same thing.

What is the difference that you can see?
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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2021, 02:48:06 PM »
Hi
For myself I believe the word man should be understood as mankind in the image of God and the only time we shall see this is at the second  coming of Christ when he is united married to his Eve the church his Bride this is man in the image of God

Heb_1:3  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;       

This is said of no other person in scripture so Christ is the image of God and this will come to pass at his second coming when he is united with his bride when the creation on the last Adam is completed.

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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2021, 05:55:35 PM »
Sorry, but both versions seem to me to be saying exactly the same thing.

What is the difference that you can see?

Look at the formatting of the text.
In the ESV 1:27 and 9:6 are scripted and indented, 1:26 is not.
In the KJV they all look the same.
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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2021, 07:22:00 PM »
Hi
For myself I believe the word man should be understood as mankind in the image of God and the only time we shall see this is at the second  coming of Christ when he is united married to his Eve the church his Bride this is man in the image of God

Heb_1:3  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;       

This is said of no other person in scripture so Christ is the image of God and this will come to pass at his second coming when he is united with his bride when the creation on the last Adam is completed.

Love and Peace
Dave
Interesting!
Compare the other similar verses and then what?
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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2021, 07:31:23 PM »
I say NO.
It depends on what you mean by "image."

Rom 11:29 "for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable."

If mankind is so gifted as to be in God's image, then he so is gifted. Yet the likeness is tainted by sin, to such an extent that men can't even see the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 2Co 4:4. So with sinful man, the image is very dull, and extends to physical dominion alone.

Man was not allowed to be as God, knowing good and evil, and live for ever. Man was appointed to die. Yet in the line of Adam's descendants, the true image of God was preserved by faith Hab 2:4, see also Heb Ch. 11, leading up to Christ, the "last Adam" or the last of the direct descendants of Adam who served as beacons of faith, and identified with the true image of God, whom is Christ.

Fallen man still has that opportunity by the sanctification of faith in Christ to "eat from the tree of life in the Paradise of God." Revelation 2:7.

Where is this paradise (i.e. Eden) of God? Luk 23:43 and  2Co 12:4 make clear it is in heaven.

If the tree of life is now situated in paradise, in heaven, we are not allowed to eat of it in the physical realm (lest we become "as if God" (Gen 3:22)). The only way to reach paradise is to put on the likeness of Christ, whom is the image of God in "this" life 2 Cor 4:4.

1Co 15:49 "And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we bear the image of the heavenly man" (in heaven).

Only by this route can anyone eat of the tree of life in paradise.

Ergo heaven is the seat of eternal life, not earth.

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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2021, 07:53:40 PM »
It depends on what you mean by "image."

Not really. It depends on what the bible means. I feel sure I'll find out one day so I suppose I'll just have to be patient.
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Re: Does the bible really say that we are in God's image?
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2021, 03:35:21 AM »
Not really. It depends on what the bible means. I feel sure I'll find out one day so I suppose I'll just have to be patient.
I was only giving you two choices: a temporal dominion image, restricted to "this world,"  and a spiritual image, restricted to Christ.

 

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