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Re: Real Godly Wives Submit To Their Husbands
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2021, 02:21:27 PM »

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 "Should a woman obey her husband even if he tells her to do something against Gods law." quote from post 7 by Dave.

Again you are mixing the spiritual with the practical.
A Christian woman has to obey her Christian Husband. But there is a condition. The Husband has to love her as Jesus Loved his church, giving up everything for her.

Any husband who order his wife to do what she considers sinful, clearly does not love her and does not have to be obeyed.

There is no requirement for a Christian woman to obey every word that a nonchristian husband says to her.


Two people can only become One by knowing how each other things, there likes and dislikes so they can work as one.




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Re: Real Godly Wives Submit To Their Husbands
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2021, 03:20:03 PM »
Hi John

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Again you are mixing the spiritual with the practical.
A Christian woman has to obey her Christian Husband. But there is a condition. The Husband has to love her as Jesus Loved his church, giving up everything for her         

Are you saying we can ignore the spiritual side of scripture all those who are members of the body of Christ are female and are required to obey their husband which is Christ.
As for ordenary men and women they should ask each other politely if they would like to do something a request not an order.

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Re: Real Godly Wives Submit To Their Husbands
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2021, 10:03:50 AM »
"Are you saying we can ignore the spiritual side of scripture all those who are members of the body of Christ are female and are required to obey their husband which is Christ."

Dave, a womans husband is not Jesus, but the guy she exchanged vows with.
It is this sort of mixxed up thinking I challenge you on.

Every Christian is to show their Love for Jesus by their obedience to his commands.

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Re: Real Godly Wives Submit To Their Husbands
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2021, 02:52:59 PM »
Hi John
Thank you for your reply it seams the wedding vows are based on the following.


Eph 5:22  Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 
Eph 5:23  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 
Eph 5:24  Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. 
Eph 5:25  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 
Eph 5:26  That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 
Eph 5:27  That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 
Eph 5:28  So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 
Eph 5:29  For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 
Eph 5:30  For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 
Eph 5:31  For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 
Eph 5:32  This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 
Eph 5:33  Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband. 
       


Reading through the above the word obey dose not appear it seams to me to be a two way street the wife shall submit to her husband and the Husband shall love his wife even to die for her so if you Love someone that much you would not order her about like some sort of slave I think verse 33 sums it up very well.
verse 31/32 are interesting don`t you think.

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Re: Real Godly Wives Submit To Their Husbands
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2021, 10:19:13 AM »
Yes the CoE wedding servive and by default most other church wedding services are based on these verses as well as traditions.

Marriage is first and foremost a practical means of two people working together as one.
The similarity of husband and wife of Jesus and the church and how these will work in practise is indeed a mystery.
I suspect that just as in marriage listening is a vital skill so it will be in our time with Jesus.
We are not the experts on heaven, the new earth etc Jesus is so we will need to learn from him.

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