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Offline DavidaBrother

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Re: Are there any folk learning biblical Hebrew and Greek here?
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2021, 01:47:43 PM »
Hi Dave,
Thanks for your response.  I too use the ESV as a preferred version and regularly quote from it for preference.  And eSword has been enormously helpful for me for quite some time now as a quick reference to Greek and Hebrew words.  I'm no longer satisfied by this though and am hoping to gain a reasonable comprehension of both languages, as often there are translation issues involving for instance the expression of Jesus's words in Greek, when they would more likely have been originally spoken in Aramaic/Hebrew.  The meaning in Greek, may be slightly less than the original or even understood in our English translations in a way not quite originally intended to mean.  And when we have an English translation of Hebrew, there is again the distinct possibility that the full, or fuller meaning, or implications of the Hebrew word originally used, is not being conveyed in the English translation.  It is for these reasons that I'm wanting to learn this.
  At the end of the day, what really counts and matters is that God is speaking to us in the Bible and revealing His truths by the Holy Spirit to us and that we are growing in Him, hearing Him and obeying Him...hopefully!

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Re: Are there any folk learning biblical Hebrew and Greek here?
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2021, 02:31:39 PM »
Hi Deborah, Thanks for your response and great to meet someone doing this!  I'm a beginner in this, and not finding it easy, but hoping to learn to read and comprehend both.  I'm finding it to be a long process!  Do you have any tips?  And is there any possibility of us sharing some simply Greek and Hebrew here?  Currently I'm learning inflexions for Greek verbs, but very slowly!  I have Greek and Hebrew languages installed on my computer, so can easily swap at the click of a button.  I can pretty much read both Greek and Hebrew sentences phonetically, but have to learn the mechanics of both languages!  As Davetaff says, I do have and use 'esword', which I do find enormously helpful.  I have the following books:
"Strongs exhaustive Concordance" as large book,
"Vine's NT Greek Grammar and Dictionary",
"The Analytical Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon",
"The New Greek English Interlinear New Testament" (Brown, Comfort and Douglas),
"The Interlinear Bible, Hebrew, Greek, English" (Hendrickson pub),
Hebrew Torah
"Learn New Testament Greek" - Dobson
"Learn Biblical Hebrew" - Dobson
I'm finding Jonathan Wilkins videos on You Tube to be very helpful.
  What do you use please?  Thanks, David

For Greek, I used "The Elements of New Testament Greek" (Duff)
For Hebrew, I'm working through "Basics of Biblical Hebrew" (Pratico & Van Pelt). My main issue with it is the order in which it covers the grammar: everything you need to know about nouns, then everything about adjectives, then prepositions, then numbers... even when I was halfway through, I couldn't yet read a complete sentence because I hadn't learned anything about verbs! But I've since got myself a video course from this company: https://www.thegreatcourses.com
It's expensive but really excellent, and gives you a proper feel for the language (which is so important).

Of course, I also have an interlinear Bible (Greek and Hebrew).

The one book I avoid is Strong's Concordance, for several reasons:
1) It's based on the KJV (which I have never read or used)
2) It's not a proper lexicon/dictionary - it's intended as a tool for finding and comparing words in the KJV, not as a translation aid.
3) Linguistically it's partly out of date (just as the KJV is)

The Strong's numbers are very useful, but I find them in my interlinear Bible.

There's a good online Greek dictionary here: https://www.billmounce.com/greek-dictionary  I haven't found a decent online Hebrew one yet.

One thing that learning the languages has given me is greater respect for Bible translators. Our modern Bible translations are very very good - nobody needs to learn Hebrew and Greek to understand the Bible - but as you say, knowing the languages gives you a little bit of extra insight into some of the untranslatable nuances. It's also very useful for spotting false "translations" posted on Christian internet forums by people who think they know better than the professional translators!
https://www.thegreatcourses.com
https://www.billmounce.com/greek-dictionary
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