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Here God goes against human will and demonic will and in the scriptures releases the captive / His people from bondage of and from the egyptians.God still does that today - with or within your will or your will allowing it [as He does not depemt on your will or what you want to believe]These same captives now being free may well come under new attack [as the spiritual does not stop living] and coming up against us..Therefore Israel came into "spiritual bondage" [Babylonian Exile] a mixer of human temptation and spiritual attack..I really can't see how you can evaulate / Murder,kill,destroy/ under the same banner from a Spiritual perspective..You can only see it under a flag of human and the ten commandments as you have here/ but not sure whether God meant it - this way ..Youi are simply looking at an intellectual level [maybe not living it] Many Israelites were in slavery for many years [with no will of their own] and meanwhile the Egyptians were worshipping other god's...Talk about death and destruction under other humans - worshipping other god's...-In the same way huge numbers of Jews were killed under hitlers power..It is not so much "who does it" - I am sure there must be a difference beteeen these scritures when interpretating [Murder,kill,destroy]
The reason I chose John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.Is because there is a difference between human affect and Spiritual ...The context is comparing human against / Spiritual / ..Here you have the Good Shepherd Guarding [The Guardian] and then you have the Three opponents in this argument...1. People [who at that time who were their own god's [that came up against Him.] these are the people that took Jesus to the Cross and still do today.. [these were and are still today the people who kill detroy the futures of and dedroy the faith of]2. It's about leaders .. they are the role models - here the role models were the pharisees and the sadducees [the political players of that time] who sent many to death 3. You must except that there are no parables/ etc / to replicate satan / satan is only replicating God and trying to replicate His Character..Furthermore - satan is not God - the only thing he creates is discord and disharmony..satan is completely against family and church..
The reason I chose John 10:10 is because we are wrestling between what is spiritual of spiritual origin and human and what is is of powers beyond our capability / capacity / during these events in human life and living - we must evaluate the three and work out which one - is at work . and working against us/you/me.just look out for family affecting you - look out for spirtual affecting them and look out for other things / I mean you only have to look at Corona Virus - to look at the modern attempts - to mess us up..Whether you decoide this is sipiritual or human or just scientific is up to youI suggest you relook at John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantlyThe thief can be peopke/family/or your neigbour / ATT It was the pharises or the sadducees / those who had the most influence / over you..
This is patently untrue. When first approaching the promised land, they saw the promised land was filled with giants and many others.
That would be to give Christian doctrine over to untrammelled heresy and disobey the bibleJde 1:3 "Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God?s holy people."Defending the faith isn't about maintaining the right of all men to label themselves as "Christians."
I concur Satan has no power to deceive the true believer, as he is bound in the abyss. Rev 20:1,2I concur with your last point: Matt 10:36. I concur that "leaders" are always inherently dangerous, especially in non-Christians societies, as they are likely to be worshippers of satan.
I concur with your last point: Matt 10:36. I concur that "leaders" are always inherently dangerous, especially in non-Christians societies, as they are likely to be worshippers of satan.
Hi eikThank you for your reply you saidVery true but what dose God say 3 The LORD thy God, he will go over before thee, and he will destroy these nations from before thee, and thou shalt possess them: and Joshua, he shall go over before thee, as the LORD hath said He said he would destroy the nations before them there was no need to fight but later when they disobeyed God they had to fight.
And this is why we need to get back to basics and get back to what the scriptures say not what men say it says and not changing words every 5 minutes to suit ones doctoring or theology for this we need a bible we can rely on and I believe the KJV was inspired by God and as such can be relied on for the truth.
The rest of you post is about should we kill those who would kill us is killing another human being lawful in Gods eyes I don't think so its perfectly lawful in mans eye's but I do not think God will approve all the laws he has given us is to show our love for him and for each other the whole of scripture is about LOVE and when we Love it is not possible to kill someone else I believe that the end of Gods creation will be everyone who is left on earth at the end of this creation will be loving God and each other there will be no need for armies and police love is the answer to all our problems GOD IS LOVE.
Evil begets evil we should do our best to show the world a better way which is LOVE
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Hi eikThank you for your reply you saidVery true but what dose God say 3 The LORD thy God, he will go over before thee, and he will destroy these nations from before thee, and thou shalt possess them: and Joshua, he shall go over before thee, as the LORD hath said He said he would destroy the nations before them there was no need to fight but later when they disobeyed God they had to fight.Non sequitur again. Just because God says he will do something doesn't infer no need for action on the part of believers. That is heresy. As Peter says 2 Pet 1: 10 "Therefore, brothers, be more diligent to make your calling and election sure
You don't get anything by sitting back and doing nothing and by saying "God's done all the work" or "he would have done the work" or "he will do the work." Work is incumbent on believers
No where in the bible does it say that the KJV was "inspired." In point of fact it was based on other English versions that predated it and were already in widespread use and continued in widespread use
If it weren't for men killing other men, the entire world would be Islamified by now including the UK. It was only becaus our forefather fought battles and destroyed the Islamic invaders of Europe that a few ratain our Christian religion.So I reject gnostic theories and beliefs. Luke 18:8 "But when the Son of man comes, shall he indeed find faith on the earth?"
You reject the law of God, for there is no law where there is no enforcement of it. You're not even teaching Christianity but pacifism, which is communism
I concur Satan has no power to deceive the true believer, as he is bound in the abyss. Rev 20:1,2