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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #64 on: February 14, 2021, 12:57:17 AM »

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Ahh thats a shame -  so what/ who/ made you believe in universal reconcilation  @strobe  ?

And what made give up posting so early ?

Given your belief - their would be no reason for you to preach the gosple anyway or to prove what you believe in..[as no one has an alternative] we are all saved ..

[ as we are all saved] I don't get your departure message
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I've wasted enough time on you. I pray that you will come to your senses in this life rather than the next. Warm regards, peace and blessings in Christ.

Not sure why you have posted that, as eik under "universal reconcilation"  will be in the new life alongside you  / you cannot say "goodbye" to anyone..

You will have this union forever - whatever you decide..you will have no choice.

That must be hell  - surely..

But imagine being alongside millions  [who do not want to be with God - but have no choice]

You will never be able to say goodbye to any of them - eik will be their - throughout eternity...

Not sure why you would want that...








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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #65 on: February 14, 2021, 02:27:43 AM »
Ahh thats a shame -  so what/ who/ made you believe in universal reconcilation  @strobe  ?
I've already posted a list of bible verses. If they don't convince you, I have no chance

And what made give up posting so early ?
Who says I've given up posting?

Given your belief - their would be no reason for you to preach the gosple anyway or to prove what you believe in..[as no one has an alternative] we are all saved ..
We are not all saved. We all will be saved. I don't see how you don't get it. There is a great reward for following Jesus in this life because if we do, we get to attend the wedding feast of the lamb and if we don't we will have to face the judgement and the lake of fire. Please don't make me repeat myself.

[ as we are all saved] I don't get your departure message
Not sure why you have posted that, as eik under "universal reconcilation"  will be in the new life alongside you  / you cannot say "goodbye" to anyone..
Jesus told us to shake to dust from our feet. That's all I'm doing. He should do the same.

You will have this union forever - whatever you decide..you will have no choice.

That must be hell  - surely..

But imagine being alongside millions  [who do not want to be with God - but have no choice]
All will eventually accept God without being forced to.

You will never be able to say goodbye to any of them - eik will be their - throughout eternity...
I can live with that, it doesn't bother me at all

Not sure why you would want that...
What has what I want got to do with it?
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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #66 on: February 14, 2021, 03:06:40 AM »
We had both made our cases, the conversation was going nowhere and it was time to move on. I'm still very happy talking to you or anyone else.
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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #67 on: February 14, 2021, 04:34:28 AM »
I don't have much time for people who can't even read.
Eph 2:10 By grace you have been saved, through faith
He reads that to mean you've been saved by faith and therefore he's not been preaching works salvation.
Faith IS a work. We have been saved by the grace of God, not by works so no man can boast.
But you're right I repent of my impatience, come back eik and we can talk if you want.
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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #68 on: February 14, 2021, 07:40:24 AM »
I don't have much time for people who can't even read.
Eph 2:10 By grace you have been saved, through faith
He reads that to mean you've been saved by faith and therefore he's not been preaching works salvation.
Faith IS a work. We have been saved by the grace of God, not by works so no man can boast.
But you're right I repent of my impatience, come back eik and we can talk if you want.
Faith is a work, but it is also of grace, and it is also not given to, or retained by, everyone cf. parable of the unmerciful servant.  It is the link between man's work necessary for salvation, and God's work. You were I think trying to trip me up somehow. I still have no idea how you can preach universal salvation, starting from such a video as you have posted. Presumably you are unitarian universalist or something? Let me tell you that unitarians as a sect are distinctly lacking in faith in Jesus Christ, where they impose no requirement on faith.

cf. https://www.uua.org/beliefs/what-we-believe

There seems to be no requirement to believe in anything except political ideals of inclusivity and diversity, which the bible does not teach respecting faith and the lack of it. Those without faith will be excluded, and should be excluded in the present if they reject the faith 1Ti 1:20.
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https://www.uua.org/beliefs/what-we-believe

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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #69 on: February 14, 2021, 08:15:25 AM »
You've posted a link to the Unitarian Universalist church. I have never identified with them, been to one of their services, endorsed them or even mentioned them. So I don't see why I should even respond. If you want to challenge one I suggest you speak to one of them. I follow Jesus and I am speaking of my beliefs and can only respond to what I have written here. The video link I posted was an in response to a question, I did not start from there, it was convenient to do so. That's all. It doesn't mean I accept everything he ever says. Just that it answer one particular question. Are you trying to track down what sect or denomination I belong to? So far you've tried Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics and now Unitarian Universalists. You're wrong, wrong and wrong again although I expect that you could pick any one of them and there would be some things I agree with and some I disagree with.
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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #70 on: February 14, 2021, 08:52:55 AM »
Faith is a work OF GOD in us. This is NOT the same as grace.
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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #71 on: February 14, 2021, 09:01:11 AM »
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It is the link between man's work necessary for salvation
So if salvation is by grace what exactly are the works you think are necessary?
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