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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2021, 09:53:32 AM »

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God is the saviour of all men, and especially of those who believe must mean that God has provided the means of salvation for all men. Whether we accept or reject our saviour is both (a) a matter of being called, which is outside the human sphere of knowledge and (b) our own desire to be saved.
Bible verses to support that?
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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2021, 10:01:52 AM »
You may think that your desires can override the will of God but I am slightly more humble than that. At least I try to be most of the time by His grace.
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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2021, 10:43:24 AM »
I beg your pardon, I will try to inform you of where I am in my thinking.
We are not made in God's image, we are being made into God's Image. God's creation is not yet complete but soon will be. Once we are in the image of God, we will not be tempted to choose evil although we will know what it is.
That is why I think the fall of Adam was God's plan from the beginning. He was meant to eat the forbidden fruit so that God's plan could come to pass.
God's work for day six of creation, which is where we are now is to make man in His image. Then comes the Sabbatical reign. Then (I think) the work starts again which may very well be the judgement and liberating the spirits from prison which will be all those who didn't share in the wedding feast of the lamb although I am not clear on this.

Thank you Strobe for your post to which I can agree as for the millenium I see it as a period of learning with Christ and his church the new Jerusalem ruling the world with an iron rod satan will be removed until the end.
The object to enlighten as many as possible to the gospel so that they will have the opportunity to choose between good and evil the whole of scripture has been about this to choose Love God is Love.

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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2021, 11:12:52 AM »
Thank you Strobe for your post to which I can agree as for the millenium I see it as a period of learning with Christ and his church the new Jerusalem ruling the world with an iron rod satan will be removed until the end.
The object to enlighten as many as possible to the gospel so that they will have the opportunity to choose between good and evil the whole of scripture has been about this to choose Love God is Love.

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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2021, 01:59:07 PM »
You may think that your desires can override the will of God but I am slightly more humble than that. At least I try to be most of the time by His grace.
I wouldn't say it was a question of your humility but the reverse if imagine you cannot sin. There is the concept of different domains, one in earth and one in heaven. Heaven is where God's will exists and will always prevail. Earth is where our desires and God's desires may conflict, and where men have at least limited dominion to defy the will of God (hence sin). However I do acknowledge that the heavenly will of God cannot be defeated by men.

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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2021, 02:02:33 PM »
Bible verses to support that?
Rom 8:30   Rom 12:2

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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2021, 02:38:41 PM »
Rom 8:30   Rom 12:2
Sir, my humility is just one of the many things that make me so incredibly amazing. That's all I'm saying!
1 John 3:9
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Re: Especially those who believe
« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2021, 07:01:14 PM »
Sir, my humility is just one of the many things that make me so incredibly amazing. That's all I'm saying!
1 John 3:9
I take your point, but we all have unknown sins even we can't see any sin in ourselves right at this moment 1 John 1:8

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