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    I have never ever said   that Christ did not rise from the dead he most definitely did the only contention we have is you say he rose as a man of flesh which as far as I can see contradicts scripture.
And I believe he rose as a spiritual being as stated in the following     

       1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body            
           


    there is nothing in scripture that I can find that says the man of flesh will be raised up as a man of flesh and Christ when he died was a man of flesh and blood 
Why do you think the story of Lazarus is a parable as far as I can see its a true story and there is nothing in the story to suggest  he went to heaven thats pure speculation.
As for people being translated there nothing unusual in thatall thos who belong to Christ and are alive at his comming will be translated


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Dave, you're been outed as a JW because that is the only denomination in the entire world that thinks as you think.

You haven't addressed any of my points, because you can't. You believe Christ is fundamentally an angel and not the true son of God. 1 Cor 15 is not addressing the unique resurrection of Christ but the resurrection at the end of the ages. It is clear you are misapplying scripture.

Here's a statistic: 8.47 million JWs, Non JWs 2.273 billion. You're in a minority of circa 1 in 273.


Biblically the resurrected Jesus asserted that he was not merely a spirit but had a flesh-and-bone body (Luke 24:39; cf. John 2:19-21).

He ate food on several occasions, thereby proving that he had a genuine physical body after the resurrection (Luke 24:30, 42-43; John 21:12-13).

This was confirmed by his followers who physically touched him (Matt. 28:9; John 20:17).

We combine these passages with the knowledge that Christ was not an angel, whom he distinguished himself from. Mat 26:53. He was a regular human being. You can't even conceive of angels ministering to Christ because that would infer one angel ministering to another.

What you are teaching  is only subscribed to by a fraction of those who claim to believe the bible. I note that JW is proscribed as a cult in  Singapore, China, Vietnam, Russia.

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Hi eik
Thank you for your reply but what on earth has the JW got to do with anything let me make myself quite clear I am not A JW and never have been.
I will say this for them the very few I have met on the door step seam very nice people and if their hearts in the right place God will accept them its not our place to judge.

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  You haven't addressed any of my points, because you can't. You believe Christ is fundamentally an angel and not the true son of God. 1 Cor 15 is not addressing the unique resurrection of Christ but the resurrection at the end of the ages. It is clear you are misapplying scripture         

I have addressed every point you have made if you choose to ignore what I say thats up to you.
Where on earth did you get the idea I believe Christ is an angel I have never said it and categorically deny ever saying it please don't put words in my mouth.

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  Here's a statistic: 8.47 million JWs, Non JWs 2.273 billion. You're in a minority of circa 1 in 273.


Biblically the resurrected Jesus asserted that he was not merely a spirit but had a flesh-and-bone body (Luke 24:39; cf. John 2:19-21).

He ate food on several occasions, thereby proving that he had a genuine physical body after the resurrection (Luke 24:30, 42-43; John 21:12-13).

This was confirmed by his followers who physically touched him (Matt. 28:9; John 20:17       

That Christ appeared to his decipels as they remembered him is not in question and to some they did not recognise until he revealed himself which would suggest he could appear in different guises which ordenary men of flesh and blood cannot do.
All the time our Lord was with us before his death there is no instance of him changing his appearance or disappearing

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     We combine these passages with the knowledge that Christ was not an angel, whom he distinguished himself from. Mat 26:53. He was a regular human being. You can't even conceive of angels ministering to Christ because that would infer one angel ministering to another.

What you are teaching  is only subscribed to by a fraction of those who claim to believe the bible. I note that JW is proscribed as a cult in  Singapore, China, Vietnam, Russia.               

Agreed Christ is not never has been an angel before his death he was the son of man after his resurrection he was the son of God and a God he was also higher than the angels and as such had all the powers of God at his disposal and could appear as anything he liked.

Christ is not an angel he is the son of God
Interesting what you say about the JW doesn't  it say somewhere that true worshipers will be persecuted
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Dave

 

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