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What happened to Jesus physical body at the tomb as it was found empty after burial?
Resurrected in the flesh.

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What happened to Jesus physical body at the tomb as it was found empty after burial?

Hi Serenity
Thank you for your question I think the best answer we have is from St Paul

1Co 15:43  It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 
1Co 15:44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 
1Co 15:45  And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 
1Co 15:46  Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.        


so do we retain the outward appearance of our mortal body is it the mortal body that is raised a spiritual body

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Yes but Dave the body of Jesus was not there physically in the tomb.  Thomas PHYSICALLY not spiritually put his fingers into the wounds of Christ. 
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Hi Serenity
Thank you for your question I think the best answer we have is from St Paul

1Co 15:43  It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Co 15:44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45  And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1Co 15:46  Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.       


so do we retain the outward appearance of our mortal body is it the mortal body that is raised a spiritual body

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Dave
I regret there is nothing in that passage that suggests "we retain the outward appearance of our mortal body." In any event what the mortal body looks like when it is 10 years old is not what it looks like when it is 100 years old. Which appearance would it be like?

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I regret there is nothing in that passage that suggests "we retain the outward appearance of our mortal body." In any event what the mortal body looks like when it is 10 years old is not what it looks like when it is 100 years old. Which appearance would it be like?

John 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"


John 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."


Luke 24:13-35   16 but they were kept from recognizing him.

30 When he was at the table with them, he took bread, gave thanks, broke it and began to give it to them. 31 Then their eyes were opened and they recognized him, and he disappeared from their sight.





Yes a seed that falls to the ground. looks nothing like - what it will become..



Yet God hears- see's - covers - feels - has a heart..etc.

Goes to tremendous lengths to relate to us [and then through Jesus] .



In the first account Mary thought Jesus was the gardener... until Jesus allowed her eyes to be opened...

In the second  account  after walking through a wall - all the disciples recognized Jesus and Jesus spoke specifically to Thomas [now you can touch me]

In the next example- Jesus walked with them / but He blinded them to who He was - it was only when he broke bread with His hands and drank wine - that they recognized Him.

I mean Jesus reappeared many times from fishing [in the image of man] to frying up a breakfast with the disciples on a beach..



What we wil be like in the afterlife - well people often appear as they were to people who knew them... when you are grieving you will have how you knew them and last saw them - around you for many years...



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I regret there is nothing in that passage that suggests "we retain the outward appearance of our mortal body." In any event what the mortal body looks like when it is 10 years old is not what it looks like when it is 100 years old. Which appearance would it be like?

John 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"


John 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."


Luke 24:13-35   16 but they were kept from recognizing him.

30 When he was at the table with them, he took bread, gave thanks, broke it and began to give it to them. 31 Then their eyes were opened and they recognized him, and he disappeared from their sight.





Yes a seed that falls to the ground. looks nothing like - what it will become..



Yet God hears- see's - covers - feels - has a heart..etc.

Goes to tremendous lengths to relate to us [and then through Jesus] . using parables and images - metaphors and dreams..



In the first account Mary thought Jesus was the gardener... until Jesus allowed her eyes to be opened...

In the second  account  after walking through a wall - all the disciples recognized Jesus and Jesus spoke specifically to Thomas [now you can touch me]

In the next example- Jesus walked with them / but He blinded them to who He was - it was only when he broke bread with His hands and drank wine - that they recognized Him.

I mean Jesus reappeared many times from fishing [in the image of man] to frying up a breakfast with the disciples on a beach..



What we wil be like in the afterlife - well people often appear as they were to people who knew them... when you are grieving you will have how you knew them and last saw them - around you for many years...



Yes the seed is nothing like the end result - though we are all used to Image of the Father through Jesus .



I think what best conveys it is Matthew 7:20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.


We are going beyond what we are meant to understand .

Well God will be our Light on the new earth and we will know that He is that Light as we will identify with Him and recognize Jesus's authority over us..

One day we will sse Jesus face to face 1 John 3:2 ..



Wow talk about total dependence on God/Jesus/ Holy Spirit..

What we become here will be recognized as per inner working and what we laid down..  [whatever part of our lifes or all..



I supose it relates  to The Vine and the Branches .. but I am rambling here - much like a Vine..



It all takes us back to this never ending  circle ...

Goodness only in death are we able to allow God in - what a dependance..  [the only time when we are laid bare] without  our say so.

As for  giving God the overall permission to make us new - it is only His Soveriegn Will that then decide and allow us to continue living...

As Lazuras was not able to raise himself  / neither can you in death.. you are /wiill/totally dependent now on Jesus




You will not have any say ..


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I did a study on this once..

I say "study" it was actually something I was going through and was about to go through and went into the future..

Something I was living ATT ..

I could'nt understand it - hence I did a study using scripture to try to work out what had happened to me .. [as per all my studies]

It's ' https://www.christianfaithchatrooms.co.uk/home/onlinefreechristianchatrooms-index-html/who-shall-ascend-the-hill-of-the-lord

I still do not understand it - I supose it is because I am going from back to front / living it and then trying to understand it.


https://www.christianfaithchatrooms.co.uk/home/onlinefreechristianchatrooms-index-html/who-shall-ascend-the-hill-of-the-lord


https://www.christianfaithchatrooms.co.uk/home/onlinefreechristianchatrooms-index-html/who-shall-ascend-the-hill-of-the-lord

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Yes but Dave the body of Jesus was not there physically in the tomb.  Thomas PHYSICALLY not spiritually put his fingers into the wounds of Christ. 

Hi Serenity
Thank you for your reply but the only thing we can say with any certainty is we don't know we are not told what we do know is he appeared differently to different groups who did not know he was Christ until he revealed himself to them.
So it would seam as a spiritual being he could appear as anyone he chose to what happend to his physical body nobody knows we are not told dose it matter.

Love and Peace
Dave

 

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