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Re: Johns Gospel
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2021, 12:36:49 PM »



My apologies - having a senior moment..

Of course people can be born again with or without  knowledge - [I was]


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« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2021, 01:22:34 PM »


My apologies - having a senior moment..

Of course people can be born again with or without  knowledge - [I was]
Does that constitute rebuking a brother frankly Lev 19:17 or supercilious contempt?

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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2021, 06:39:11 PM »
Hi
Moving on

      Nicodemus said to him, ?How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother?s womb and be born?? Jesus answered, ?Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
John 3:4-‬5 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.3.4-5.ESV     


Nicodemus is taking what our Lord said literally but our Lord was talking of baptism being born again dying to our old life and being reborn into the body of Christ.
Its important to note that its not just water but water and Spirit I believe the water mentioned here is the word of God which cleanses us in preparation to receive the Holy Spirit this is the baptism we should strive for it is through this baptism we enter into the kingdom.
So let us emers ourselves in the water of the word of God to cleanse us to make our bodies a clean receptacle for the Holy Spirit.

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Dave
https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.3.4-5.ESV

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« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2021, 01:20:24 PM »
Hi
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     That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.  Do not marvel that I said to you, ?You  must be born again.?
John 3:6-‬7 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.3.6-7.ESV       


Here we see we must put of the body of flesh and be transformed this will happen at the coming of our Lord those who are alive will be transformed St paul confirms this.

    For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words.
1 Thessalonians 4:15-‬18 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/1th.4.15-18.ESV     


Ho that day would dawn let us pray thy kingdom come thy will be done.

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Dave
https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.3.6-7.ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/1th.4.15-18.ESV

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Re: Johns Gospel
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2021, 02:48:16 PM »
Hi
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8The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.?       

here  our Lord likens being born again to the wind you can't see the wind but you can feel it and you can see its effect and as with the Spirit you can feel it working in you not only that but you can know the effect it has on you and not only but also on those around you.

Romans 8:9 (ESV)
You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. 

   Galatians 5:22 (ESV)
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,


So allow the Spirit in us to do its work in us

Love and Peace
Dave


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« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2021, 01:44:05 PM »
Hi
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    Nicodemus said to him, ?How can these things be?? Jesus answered him, ?Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things?  Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but you  do not receive our testimony.  If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things?  No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.  And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up,  that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.
John 3:9-‬15 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.3.9-15.ESV         


Christ had just explained  to Nicodemus that he must be born again but Nicodemus had not understood Christ was speaking of spiritual things which the Jews could not understand.
He then he tells him that it is him that was the only one that had descended and would ascend into heaven and he would be lifted up pointing to his crucifixion.
So the question is should we be looking for the spiritual interpretation of the bible or the literal.

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Dave
https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.3.9-15.ESV

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Re: Johns Gospel
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2021, 10:31:21 AM »
Hi
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     ?For   God so loved   the world,    that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not   perish but have eternal life.
John 3:16 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.3.16.ESV       


Some of the most beautiful words in scripture showing how much the Father loved his creation that he sent his son into the world to die an horrific death on the cross to save us sinners.
It shows us what our sins deserves but our Lord took the penalty on himself showing what great love he had for us.

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Dave
https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.3.16.ESV

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Re: Johns Gospel
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2021, 10:17:09 AM »
Hi
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       For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
John 3:17 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.3.17.ESV     


Here we are given the reason why The Father sent his son into the world I take it means the world in its entirety the earth and the people everyone has the opportunity to take part in that salvation we just need to make the right choice witch is believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be save.
The other thing to be saved is the world itself being as mankind is destroying it through globle warming the only thing that can change this is the return of Jesus Christ.

Love and Peace
Dave
https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.3.17.ESV

 

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