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Re: The law
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2020, 04:30:26 PM »
till all be fulfilled"  can mean when Jesus has risen from the dead or when the world ends.
If the later is correct then we should be obeying the whole of the law and not just the moral law.

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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2020, 11:49:35 AM »
till all be fulfilled"  can mean when Jesus has risen from the dead or when the world ends.
If the later is correct then we should be obeying the whole of the law and not just the moral law.

Hi John
Thank you for your reply  I would like to know were in scripture dose it say the law should be divided the fulfilment of everything is the end of the millennium  when Christ hands everything back to the Farter

Then there's this
      To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord : I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.  When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?  Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.  Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
Isaiah 1:11-‬14 KJV
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It seams God dose not want sacrifices but they are required under the law so had Israel misunderstood the law.

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Re: The law
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2020, 06:07:24 AM »
" fulfilment of everything is the end of the millennium  when Christ hands everything back to the Farter
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Please explain how you obey every aspect of the law if the ceremonial etc aspects have not been fulfilled?

If they are still in force then you should be obeying them.

If Jesus fulfilled them when he cried ' It is Finished! ' you don't.

It is that simple.

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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2020, 11:34:34 AM »
Hi John
Thanks for your reply  I have said many times we fulfil the law through love if you don't  believe  me may be you will believe St Paul.

     For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.  Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Romans 13:9-‬10 KJV
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Take note of the words ( any other commandments ) if we love our fellow man we fulfil the law simple enough.
Then I will remind you of what God said to Noah he said we could eat everything and this was said before Israel existed it was said to the gentiles of which I am one so do we come under the law given to Israel or the law given to us gentiles by Christ.

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Re: The law
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2020, 11:38:25 AM »
'Then said they unto Him,
.. "What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?"
 Jesus answered and said unto them,
.. "This is the work of God,
.... that ye believe on Him Whom He hath sent"'
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(John 6:28-29)   

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« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2020, 12:08:27 PM »
'The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul:
the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart:
the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever:
the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold:
.. sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
.... Moreover by them is thy servant warned:
...... and in keeping of them there is great reward.
Who can understand his errors?
.. cleanse thou me from secret faults.
.... Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins;
...... let them not have dominion over me:
........ then shall I be upright,
.......... and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart,
.. be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD,
.... my strength, and my redeemer.'

(Psalm 19:7-14)

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Re: The law
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2020, 02:37:29 PM »
Hi Chris
Thank you for another wonderful scripture was written long before Christ came and gave us the Laws of Love so as I have asked before is there spiritual meaning to the law something we or the Israelites are not seeing as I have asked about muzzling the ox which saint Paul uses to apply to the apostles.
the law given to Israel who is the first Adam of this creation the first in the flesh Christ is the last Adam the man of the spirit so was the law given to the man flesh to be taken as it is written and to the man of Spirit in a spiritual light as Paul seams to say with muzzling the Ox.

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« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2020, 02:54:21 PM »
Hi Chris
Thank you for another wonderful scripture was written long before Christ came and gave us the Laws of Love so as I have asked before is there spiritual meaning to the law something we or the Israelites are not seeing as I have asked about muzzling the ox which saint Paul uses to apply to the apostles.
the law given to Israel who is the first Adam of this creation the first in the flesh Christ is the last Adam the man of the spirit so was the law given to the man flesh to be taken as it is written and to the man of Spirit in a spiritual light as Paul seams to say with muzzling the Ox.

Love and Peace
Dave
Hello @davetaff,

You and I have discussed the use that the Apostle Paul made of Deuteronomy 25:4 in 1 Corinthians 9:9 and 1 Timothy 5:18 before, to show that the workman is worthy of his hire, and nothing more than that. 

* The law was given, by God, through the mediator-ship of Moses, with the nation of Israel, as part of the covenant God made with them at Sinai.

* The teaching concerning the the first man - Adam, and of Christ - as the second man is made clear in 1 Corinthians 15 and Romans 5.  It needs no other explanation.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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