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'God manifest in the flesh'
« on: July 26, 2020, 09:51:06 AM »

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'And without controversy great
is the mystery of godliness:
God was manifest in the flesh,
.. justified in the Spirit,
.... seen of angels,
...... preached unto the Gentiles,
........ believed on in the world,
.......... received up into glory.'

(1Timothy 3:16)

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The apostasy of the last days of this dispensation is not a departure from faith in general, but from the particular and vital doctrine which is central to 1 Timothy, namely:- 'God manifest in the flesh'


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In Christ Jesus
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Re: 'God manifest in the flesh'
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2020, 12:10:44 PM »
'And without controversy great
is the mystery of godliness:
God was manifest in the flesh,
.. justified in the Spirit,
.... seen of angels,
...... preached unto the Gentiles,
........ believed on in the world,
.......... received up into glory.'

(1Timothy 3:16)

Hello there,

The apostasy of the last days of this dispensation is not a departure from faith in general, but from the particular and vital doctrine which is central to 1 Timothy, namely:- 'God manifest in the flesh'


Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Chris


In thinking of this @Cariad
Yes that must be right because many people have faith but it's only sheer religion when they deny Jesus is the Christ. God manifested in the flesh.
Not giving significance to who He is, and not valuing the Word of God. 1 John 2:22-25

As always religion and the world are obstacles to God, coming in many forms and guises .

As for the world today in comparison to before in the past:

They fought against Hitlar, to prevent the evil he threatened to bring.

Now, they are willingly bringing it in, because they have been influenced by the way the societies have been shaped and they are seduced by evil powers,  and they love the standards of the world. That is because they reject the Word of God, who is Jesus.

Therefore I will mention 1John 2:22-25 again.

The evil powers come disguising themselves in the form of an angel of light, so that many now accept the philosophising of evil disguised as good and good disguised as evil.

In doing so, they are not accepting the moral absolutes that are in the Word of God.

Describing themselves to be people of love very often, when it is the entire opposite.

1John 4:7-12
They reject love, that is in Christ, and in the truth of it all, their love is growing cold. Eventhough they say they have love.


And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. Matthew 24:12

 

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Re: 'God manifest in the flesh'
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2020, 12:28:47 PM »
'And the Word was made flesh,
and dwelt among us,
(and we beheld His glory,
the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,)
full of grace and truth.'

(John 1:14)   

Hello @Christianna,

Thank you for your response, and the thoughts you express.

I am noticing increasingly, in those who profess to have a saving faith, the denial, that in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ, God was manifest in the flesh.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
Our risen Lord and Head.
Chris







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Re: 'God manifest in the flesh'
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2020, 02:31:58 PM »
In the last days, many will have a form of godliness but denying the power. 2 Timothy 3:5

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Re: 'God manifest in the flesh'
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2020, 02:59:25 PM »
Hi
Just had a thought our Lord says.

Joh 5:19  Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.     

Dose this mean that the father works through the son but they are separate.

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Re: 'God manifest in the flesh'
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2020, 03:48:50 PM »
Hi
Just had a thought our Lord says.

Joh 5:19  Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.     

Dose this mean that the father works through the son but they are separate.

Love and Peace
Dave

Hi Dave,

That is a good verse, thank you for quoting it.  Yes, indeed, the Father did work through the Son, for it says in 2 Corinthians 5:19a:- 

' ... God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself.'

Also, as John said, 'The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us' ( John 1:14).

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 

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Re: 'God manifest in the flesh'
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2020, 03:49:41 PM »
'Now the Spirit speaketh expressly,
that in the latter times
some shall depart from the faith, ... '

(1 Timothy 4:1a) 

Hello there,

The words used in the verse above commands our attention: for there is an air of solemnity about them which urges us to pay attention, and be obedient to their call.  The warning is of apostasy.  This apostasy is connected with seducing spirits and doctrines of demons:  the forbidding of marriage, the abstention from meats, with old wives fables, and, strangely, also bodily exercise.  A strange combination, but one which we are not to take lightly, as the words, 'Now the Spirit speaks expressly' enforces.  In 2 Timothy 3 & 4 we see the consequence of this departure from the faith: the times to which they refer are called, 'perilous times ' (2 Timothy 3:1). Characterised in the verses which follow in 2 Timothy 3:2-9.

At 1 Timothy we are at the parting of the ways.  We either believe and hold fast to 'the mystery of godliness' (1 Timothy 3:16) , or we start upon the downward road that leads, via the doctrine of myths, to 'the mystery of iniquity' (2 Thessalonians 2:7) .  Paul's one corrective is 'The Word'.  For the individual believer or for the teacher alike he says, 'Give attention to the READING', 'Preach the WORD'. (2 Timothy 4:2)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

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Re: 'God manifest in the flesh'
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2020, 03:51:26 PM »
Hi
Just had a thought our Lord says.

Joh 5:19  Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.     

Dose this mean that the father works through the son but they are separate.

Love and Peace
Dave

Yes, it means that they are distinct - but also that they cannot be distinguished, because they do exactly the same things.
"Blessed is the one who always trembles before God,
but whoever hardens their heart falls into trouble." (Proverbs 28:14)

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