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1 Corinthians 15:47-49
« on: July 19, 2020, 09:16:23 AM »

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'The first man is of the earth, earthy:
the second man is the Lord from heaven.
As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy:
and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
And as we have borne the image of the earthy,
we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.'

(1Corinthians 15:47-49) 

Hello there,

What a glorious hope we have, don't we?

That we shall one day bear the image of our risen Lord: and will no longer be shackled by this body, which is of the earth, therefore earthy; but we will be clothed upon with our resurrection bodies (2 Corinthians 5:4), and made meet to partake of the inheritance of the saints in light (Colossians 1:12); a 'meetness' which we now possess in promise only, but which will then be ours in fact. 

We are saved by hope and kept by hope, a hope that is sure and steadfast, for it is secure in Christ Jesus our living Lord.  For faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen (Hebrews 11:1).

Praise God for His mercy and His grace!

* Please share your thoughts on this if your have any.

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Chris

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Re: 1 Corinthians 15:47-49
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2020, 10:10:54 AM »
That shows the image of the old nature that we carry with us, and the image of the new nature, being renewed each day. In 1 Corinthians 15:47-49

These two nature's can often be in conflict with each other, like two opposite natured brothers, or two opposite natured sisters fighting with each other.

Paul described the conflict:

 I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 7:15-20

If we comply to the flesh, the enemy will use that as a doorway to come in and affect our way of thinking and behaviour. Ephesians 2:1-2

Sadly the enemy will come in through vulnerability and through illness, accidents, past hurts and traumas.

In my experience I had to go through this several times, before I knew how to wear the armour of God better, and still I need to learn much more. Ephesians 6:10-19

That's in learning to live more by the Spirit of God and building a deeper trust in Christ.

I think though in the process God will put people and situations, there in your life to help you. Just it doesn't seem that way but God can help us to realise.

As we grow in Christ we are being inwardly renewed each day, although our body and fleshy nature is decaying and dying. 2 Corinthians 4:16

That could be an example, of how God began the good work and  will bring it to completion. Philippians 1:6

Therefore we do not lose heart.

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Re: 1 Corinthians 15:47-49
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2020, 11:51:49 AM »
Thank you @Christianna,

I do appreciate all that you have said: and praise God for the work of God that is evident in you.

Thank you so much for taking the time to share these things.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

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Re: 1 Corinthians 15:47-49
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2020, 12:10:02 PM »
Thank you @Cariad also for all of this. God has been working through us, in these threads.

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Re: 1 Corinthians 15:47-49
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2020, 09:20:46 PM »
We have to share the 'earthiness' of Adam before we can share the heavenly nature of Christ. But just as we presently share the body-nature of Adam, so in the future we will share the body-nature of the resurrected Christ. (Philippians 3:20,21) Like Him, we shall be free from the limitations of time and space, and unshackled by mortality.
"Blessed is the one who always trembles before God,
but whoever hardens their heart falls into trouble." (Proverbs 28:14)

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Re: 1 Corinthians 15:47-49
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2020, 11:47:43 PM »
'But now is Christ risen from the dead,
.. and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
.... For since by man came death,
...... by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die,
.. even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
.... But every man in his own order:
Christ the firstfruits;
.. afterward they that are Christ's
.... at His coming.'

(1 Corinthians 15:20) 

@Deborah,

Hi there,

Yes, 'at His (Christ's) coming'.

Praise God!

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Chris


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Re: 1 Corinthians 15:47-49
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2020, 11:11:47 AM »
We have to share the 'earthiness' of Adam before we can share the heavenly nature of Christ. But just as we presently share the body-nature of Adam, so in the future we will share the body-nature of the resurrected Christ. (Philippians 3:20,21) Like Him, we shall be free from the limitations of time and space, and unshackled by mortality.

Hi @Deborah and @Christianna,

Yes, we share in Adam's earthiness:  How wonderful it is that Christ laid aside His heavenly glory, and came to earth, taking upon Himself the form of a man in order to redeem us.  Yet, though He was made in the likeness of man, He was without sin: so could therefore take upon Himself our sins, and die in our place, that we may be saved from sin and it's penalty, and thereby receive life everlasting.

I recently saw a debate in which there were differing opinions as to whether a believer should continue to refer to himself as a 'sinner', it was suggested that doing so was a denial of the work of Christ in salvation.  Yet, as 'a sinner saved by grace', surely it is something to be rejoiced in.  For it is Christ who is our righteousness and sanctification, it is He who died for us, and ever lives and intercedes for us, as our Intercessor.  He is the Author and the Finisher of our faith, and by acknowledging our dependence on Him as 'a sinner saved by grace' then the emphasis is upon Him, and His power to save to the uttermost, rather than on ourselves.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

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Re: 1 Corinthians 15:47-49
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2020, 01:26:33 PM »
I think that the scripture 1 Corinthians 15:47- 49 is directly referring to bearing the image of our  earthly body's now, before bearing the image our heavenly body, during the resurrection.

It wasn't about the conflict of the old and new nature, as I had written.
 
Yet I cross referenced it in because it is relevant and seeing at a different angle.

For God does want us to live by His Spirit and reap the blessing and for the sake of the gospel and the whole world . Therefore living by our new nature and new image, although this is not yet a new body.

For God called Christians to be the Salt of the world and without the salt the world loses its flavour. Matthew 5:13

You are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his flavour, wherewith shall it be salted  It is therefore good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

The whole of creation needs Christ, to keep it running smoothly.

Also to reap the blessings of now and the future promises, for the whole world and for them as individuals. As a redemption.

Eventhough our earthly body and also the present condition of the world, is causing us all to groan.

For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.  For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.  Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body. For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees. But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance. Romans 8:20-25

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