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Offline Derek1955

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My Christian orthodoxy.
« on: July 14, 2020, 10:24:44 AM »

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Shortly after becoming a Christian I read in the Gospel of Matthew 24:35 'Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away' and whilst on many occasions I have fallen short of the glory that is God and have repented I have continued to believe until this day that Jesus' words in the Gospels are sacrosanct and unchangeable.

I am aware that scholarly debate occurs with possible errors in translation being used for any declared variation but the essence of Jesus' message remains succinct throughout.  I used to wonder why there seems to be a delight by some to prune the beautiful blooms of Christ's message and I suppose one reason is to make them better fit the finite understanding of humankind, whilst another is pride in scholarship.  Also I read in Proverbs 18: 2.  A fool takes no pleasure in understanding but only in expressing an opinion, which also seems an appropriate description of some output and certainly whilst one is nit-picking one can take some comfort in the uncertainty thus created.

There is a real tendency both within and without religions to place the wishes of humankind at the centre of events and this is seen with both divorce and abortion to name but two which result from humankind's weakness and perceived needs to make either desirable or necessary but God's commandments forbid both and that should be made clear.     

Christ told us to live the absolute ethic right now but also pointed out that we must render unto God that which is God's and to Caesar that which is Caesar's and it is the Christian churches' task to spell out to their congregations that which belongs to which.  Unless the yardstick of righteousness remains unchanged then no real and lasting  measuring of either right or wrong can be made, in which case, when 'wrong' becomes 'right' then how can it be possible for the adherents to the change to repent and seek forgiveness.

Christ's warning that whilst Heaven and earth shall pass away but His words will not, means that we, as Christians, water them down at our peril and this is clearly indicated to us in His parable of the Rich man and Lazarus. Clearly repentance will not be possible once we have died.

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Re: My Christian orthodoxy.
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2020, 10:46:36 AM »
Hi Derek
Thank you for another good post for my self I believe that the God who created heaven and earth would be more than capable of giving us the scripture as he wants them to be not as man wants them to be.
I don't believe he wants anybody to learn ancient languages to be able to understand what he is saying he wants everyone to understand his message for myself I believe it is the message of creation from beginning to end.
I like to use the KJV it was the first complete English version and as such inspired by the holy Spirit

Love and peace
Dave

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Re: My Christian orthodoxy.
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2020, 03:23:31 PM »
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@davetaff,

Hello there,

Surely by entering this OP, Derek, you have expressed an opinion? However, you would not wish to be classified as a 'fool' would you?  It is so easy to class those who do not agree with one's own thinking in that category: while forgetting that we ourselves have only been expressing our own.

The word of God in it's entirety: whether administered through the prophets of the Old Testament; the words of the Lord during His earthly ministry; or by the Apostles who spoke in His Name since His ascension to God's right hand;  all is God breathed.

I agree, Derek, that we must not corrupt it (2 Corinthians 2:17), handle it deceitfully (2 Corinthians 4:2) or water it down: nor render it 'of none effect' by tradition (Mark 7:13).

I also agree, Derek, that God's word is the standard, by which all should be measured, whether it be doctrine, manner of life, or witness.

Thank you
Within the love of Christ our Saviour
Chris

 

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