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Re: Resisting Temptation.
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2020, 01:17:02 AM »

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Re: Resisting Temptation.
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2020, 01:35:14 AM »
 

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I'm reading into your thought's at the time of this post - and can see what you are thinking while you are typing this post..and your direction after. i'm seeing you thinking and your thoughts. - I'm seaching into you.


Many Christians believe that satan and his hordes /demons/ cannot do anything unless they have permission - by God  [not
sure why the enemy would have ask for permissiom - when he is anything but a gentlemam.

This idea comes from Job and the book of Job where we see satan speaking with God [does,nt say that God looked upon evil -
but spoke with it] I say "it" because "it" is no longer in the image of God..

I do not believe that the enemy "ask's for permission everytime he causes problems with people"

The enemy is not - a gentleman - or gentlemen - he is not polite and does not go by  etiquette..


God will decide when the final time is  - against human desire and spiritual intervention -  re : Matthew 24:38

For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;


Not dependent on your desires or your life -  God now decrees the ending of all things and the start of the new. [the enemy now has to cease]

 Covid 19  [Corona] is a great example of the enemy causing trouble while God seem's to sit back - it's like God saying "okay - you can take thousands - but don' t take eveyone - don't take the entire population of the planet...
..
but there will be a time when God does allow and the end will come.

 You will not be able to resist the ending of al things and the start of the new..

This is a time when you will have no choice - neither the enemy..

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Re: Resisting Temptation.
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2020, 03:22:37 AM »
Not sure what I'm going to  do with my grandson..

If he rebels or if he continues this reationship - but goes his own way..


I've seen it all before ....

Just hope he goes the right way - but who knows..

 Al I can do is show hm love and commitment - sonething IUnever knew but can relate too using the Fathers example

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Re: Resisting Temptation.
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2020, 11:28:22 AM »
Temptation takes many forms and often rears its head when we are at our weakest and this is revealed clearly in Jesus' time in the wilderness when He was desperately hungry. He well knew His Divinity could make His earthly life one of power, wealth, adulation, ease and physical comfort but resisted the temptation, not by dialoguing with Satan but by using the strength to resist He gained from His desire to carry out His Father's command to Him.  Let us look at how He accomplished this, as described in Matthew 4: 1-11 (KJV). 

?Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.  And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterwards an hungered.  And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God."

As the creator of the quantum aspect of His creation jesus knew full well that the atomic structure of stones could easily be turned into that of bread by Him but because He would do only that which He saw His Father do He would not take that easy path and so remained hungry.
Jesus' scripture reference - (Deuteronomy 8: 3. KJV) ?And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knew not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live?

"Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, and saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, "It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.""
Jesus' scripture reference - (Psalm 91: 12.) ?They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.?)

"Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; and saith unto him, all these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.?    Jesus knew that with His divine power He could rule not only the world but the whole universe but He also knew that when compared to His spiritual kingdom it was utterly worthless.
Jesus' scripture reference - (Deuteronomy 6: 13.) ?Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.?

When we are tempted, as we undoubtedly will be on many, many occasions, let us not argue with the devilish thoughts but simply fall back on scripture, as did Christ and let us simply quote His words, recorded in Mark's Gospel. 8:33 KJV ?But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.?  Peter was rebuked because he was looking at things from man?s point of view rather than God?s.  Whilst Peter had an undoubtedly caring nature it was often misguided.  Jesus rebuked Peter because his thoughts were in line with Satan?s (worldly) thoughts. Much sin is committed under the guise of care when that care is misguided. This is why we need to always check things out in the Scriptures.  If someone, no matter their station in life, religious or secular, is misleading us, then they must be rebuked and this is what Jesus did with Peter. He was not so much criticizing him but trying to redirect his thinking back to the things of God.  So fall back upon and proclaim those other words of  Jesus when tempted. ?Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written,     Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.?             

There is Divine power in those words which helps us to resist any and all proffered temptation and when we act upon them then, indeed, angels will come and minister unto us. But first must come our determined resistance for only then will be given to us the Divine help from the Holy Spirit.     

As Christ revealed in Gethsemane it is by will alone that someone is good or bad and never ever forget that at the end of each human life either God or Satan will say 'Mine' of each soul on offer
Hello @Derek1955,

Thank you for your OP. 

My thoughts go to the words of James 4:7-10:-

'Submit yourselves therefore to God.
Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Draw nigh to God, and He will draw nigh to you.

.. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners;
.... and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
..... Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep:
...... let your laughter be turned to mourning,
........ and your joy to heaviness.
.......... Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord,
............ and He shall lift you up.'
 


* Notice that 'submission' to God comes before 'resistance'.

* Have you never found yourself in the grip of an overwhelming desire? Have you never been swept away by your own lust and enticed? (James 1:14) Have you never felt helpless and at the mercy of your own sinful nature?  Have you never cried out to Him for deliverance?  Have you never known His 'way of escape' provided by His own loving hand? (1 Corinthians 10:13) Has your laughter been turned to mourning?  Your joy to heaviness?  Have you not prostrated yourself in the dust (figuratively) in the sight of the Lord?  Have you never known Him lift you up again? 

* In the case of Mary Magdalene, she loved much for she was forgiven much.  I know without a shadow of doubt that nothing can separate me from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus.  That He does save to the uttermost those who come unto Him for salvation.  For His grace and mercy knows no bounds, and His love also knows no boundaries.

Praise His Holy Name!

In Christ Jesus
Chris


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Re: Resisting Temptation.
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2020, 11:49:07 AM »

'Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin,
.. but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body,
.. that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
.... Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin:
but yield yourselves unto God,
.. as those that are alive from the dead,
.... and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
For sin shall not have dominion over you:
.. for ye are not under the law,
.... but under grace.'

(Rom 6:11-14) 

Praise God!

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