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Re: Genesis
« Reply #208 on: February 09, 2021, 01:14:19 PM »
Hi
Hope you don't  mind if I dwell on man in the image of God.

    Then God said, ?Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.?
Genesis 1:26 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/gen.1.26.ESV           


It seams to me we have three Adams one before the flood who died before the flood one after the flood Israel how died in 70AD when the Romans destroyed Israel and then the last Adam which is Christ Jesus our Lord.
So my question is is it possible that the God of all creation could fail for me it's  jest not possible so all these Adams have to be part of the master plan to create mankind into the image of God.
He tells us all this from the beginning in Genesis

      Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure       

So the end of creation is man in the image of God which is Jesus Christ as stated.

  Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high       

So here we have the end of creation.

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Dave
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Re: Genesis
« Reply #209 on: February 11, 2021, 12:55:52 PM »
Hi
So my contention is we can apply the creation story in genesis to the time after the flood and there are a few clues in the NT for example the blind man Christ cured of blindness.

     And he took the blind man by the hand and led him out of the village, and when he had spit on his eyes and laid his hands on him, he asked him, ?Do you see anything??  And he looked up and said, ?I see people, but they look like trees, walking.? Then Jesus laid his hands on his eyes again; and he opened his eyes, his sight was restored, and he saw everything clearly.
Mark 8:23-‬25 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/mrk.8.23-25.ESV       


The question here is did Christ make a mistake as the man saw men walking like trees Christ dose not make mistakes so there has to be a better explanation so was this Christ curing the man of his spiritual blindness was this a reference to the third day of creation after Noah.
We know Israel is depicted as an olive tree and our Lord as Vine.
Then we have the forth day when our Lord came into the world the light of the world as the sun is it is also the day in which the church was created represented by the moon the reflected light of the sun then we have the stars these would be the children of the man and woman

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Dave
https://bible.com/bible/59/mrk.8.23-25.ESV

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #210 on: February 13, 2021, 12:28:30 PM »
Hi
So let us consider the following.

      3  And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

 4  And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. note

 5  And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day     


So what is this light I believe it ?s the Lord Jesus Christ the light of the world through him and for him all things are created he is the bright morning star.

       Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star     

The morning star of course is the sun the light of the world so if the light spoken of here is Christ what is the evening the only thing I can think of is satan so at the end of each day of creation there is evening and morning good and evil.
So the expression evening and morning has nothing to do with the length of a day but light and darkness good and evil i am speaking of course about the creation after the flood when things take on a spiritual meaning.
We see it in the two trees the tree of life which can only be a reference to Jesus he is the tree of life and Israel is the tree of knowledge of good and evil the acquired this knowledge through the law and this knowledge  is required if we are to make the right decision to choose life which is to choose  Love and reject evil.
Both Christ and Israel are depicted as trees and like I have said before we must start understanding Genesis as covering the whole history of mankind and not as something that happened thousands of years ago and has no relevance for today.
And if I am right the controversy between evolution and scripture disappear because God is still creating and has been creating from the beginning of time when ever that may have been.

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Dave



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Re: Genesis
« Reply #211 on: February 19, 2021, 12:40:17 PM »
Hi
I would like to consider the following.

      21  And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

 22  And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. note

 23  And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. note note

 24  Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh     


The above except for the word ribs is a very good description of the crucifixion and death of our Lord Jesus Christ and from his side ( rib ) came the blood and the water and from these his woman the church was created and they would become one.
The water is the word of God the blood is the spirit the life is in the blood.
So the last Adam goes through the same as the first Adam.

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Dave

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #212 on: February 20, 2021, 01:23:56 PM »
Hi
As you may know I believe that the creation account in Genesis can and should be applied to the time of the flood with this in mind I would like to consider the 5th day when God created everything that creeps on the ground all the animals and birds.

Now let's jump forward to the beginning of the 5th day after the flood St Peter has a vision.

    and saw the heavens opened and something like a great sheet descending, being let down by its four corners upon the earth. In it were all kinds of animals and reptiles and birds of the air. And there came a voice to him: ?Rise, Peter; kill and eat.?  But Peter said, ?By no means, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean.? And the voice came to him again a second time, ?What God has made clean, do not call common.?  This happened three times, and the thing was taken up at once to heaven.
Acts 10:11-‬16 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/act.10.11-16.ESV       


If we read the rest of this section of Acts we will see that God is telling Peter to go to the gentiles to kill and eat I take this to mean to kill through baptism and to eat to consume into the body of Christ.
You may ask what this has to do with Genesis it shows that at the beginning of the 5th day after the flood ( a day a 1000 years ) God depicted all the gentile nations as animals.

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Dave



https://bible.com/bible/59/act.10.11-16.ESV

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #213 on: February 23, 2021, 12:56:30 PM »
Hi
Just wondering the first Adam and Eve where joined as one and allowed into the garden to keep it but Eve sinned and ate from the tree of knowledge and gave some to Adam so both sinned.
So lets look at the last Adam Jesus Christ when Christ died on the cross the church his Eve was created but not long after Christ was taken up to heaven they were separated was the reason for this was it so his Eve could not tempt or contaminate him with sin because the established churches leave a lot to be desired but in all the there are those whos hearts are are right with God and it is them who will meet the Lord in the air and our Lord and his Eve will become one.

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Dave

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #214 on: February 25, 2021, 11:37:45 AM »
Hi
As for the garden of Eden this was the paradise of God Adam and Eve were to look after it and God would look after them.
We can see this played out in Israel when God gives them the land flowing with milk and honey which they were to look after and tend

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Dave

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #215 on: March 02, 2021, 01:08:49 PM »
Hi
Would like to take a look at the following verse.

          The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
Genesis 1:2 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/gen.1.2.ESV   


As we can see this would be a very good description of the world at the time of the flood everything God had created before the flood was Gone God had wiped the slate clean it was time to begin again with what was on the ark the only thing that needed creating of course was man in Gods Image everything else was on the ark.

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Dave
https://bible.com/bible/59/gen.1.2.ESV

 

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