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Offline Serenity

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #184 on: December 08, 2020, 10:38:56 PM »
No but Noah was picked because he was seen as righteous.  Yet there is none righteous until you are seen as righteous through Christ. 

Christ existed before the foundation of the earth. 
He was also born through Mary. 

Jesus is beyond creation Dave, because He existed prior to it. 
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« Reply #185 on: December 09, 2020, 01:38:40 PM »
No but Noah was picked because he was seen as righteous.  Yet there is none righteous until you are seen as righteous through Christ. 

Christ existed before the foundation of the earth. 
He was also born through Mary. 

Jesus is beyond creation Dave, because He existed prior to it. 

Hi Serenity
Thank you for your reply the bible tells us that God deemed Noah as righteous and the scriptures can't be broken.
Yes we are seen as righteous in Christ through the forgiveness  he achieved by his sacrifice.

Yes he was before all things.

        Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist       

When he was before all things he was a spiritual being when he was born of Mary he became a man of flesh and blood like any other human being

The question is Christ is said to be the son of man of which man was he the son of not Joseph because God was his father.
But if I am right and Israel is the the first Adam of this creation and Christ came out of Israel so Israel is the man Christ is the son of.

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« Reply #186 on: December 09, 2020, 02:13:16 PM »
Israel is not the first Adam. 
Creation is creation not multitudes of.
Creation is also not a man that Jesus is born of.

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« Reply #187 on: December 09, 2020, 06:18:38 PM »
Israel is not the first Adam. 
Creation is creation not multitudes of.
Creation is also not a man that Jesus is born of.



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Hi Serenity
Thank you for your reply I will ask a question why do you or anybody else for that matter why did God create Israel what was it's  purpose he must have had a reason.
Why did God call Israel his son and if Israel is Gods son he must be the first Adam of this creation which began with Noah and as Gods son he must be the image of his Father.

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« Reply #188 on: December 09, 2020, 08:05:01 PM »
Adam, as in Adam and Eve, is the first son of creation.
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« Reply #189 on: December 10, 2020, 11:32:58 AM »
Adam, as in Adam and Eve, is the first son of creation.

Thank you for your reply and I agree with you but this Adam and Eve died in the flood so God began a new creation of man in his image after the flood and that man is Israel.
Look at it this way if I have a son he is the image of me a human being if a dog has a pup he is the image of his parents and so on through nature so if God has a  son he is the image of God.

And the scriptures tell us that Israel is Gods son

          Hos 11:1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt       

So as Israel is Gods son so he was created in the image of his Father so Israel is the Image of God.

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« Reply #190 on: December 10, 2020, 05:49:40 PM »
No He didn't make a new creation of man in His image after the flood...He had Noah as the continuation of creation from prior to the flood.  The flood did not bring about Adam and Eve's death...they were already dead.

You insist that there was a new creation, when Noah is symbolic of continuation from creation prior to the flood...Noah who was seen as righteous.
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« Reply #191 on: December 10, 2020, 06:35:20 PM »
No He didn't make a new creation of man in His image after the flood...He had Noah as the continuation of creation from prior to the flood.  The flood did not bring about Adam and Eve's death...they were already dead.

You insist that there was a new creation, when Noah is symbolic of continuation from creation prior to the flood...Noah who was seen as righteous.

Hi Serenity
Thank you for your reply are you saying we should ignore this scripture

           
          Hos 11:1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt     


This scripture also applies to Christ he also came out of Egypt so we have two sons of God who consist of more than one person the bible states categorically that Adam is not one man.

Love and Peace
Dave

 

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