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« Reply #176 on: December 07, 2020, 12:25:01 AM »
Hi TJ
Thank you for your reply not sure what its meant to convey but what I am trying to get across is it is Christ who is the image of God and this is 100% true because it is stated in scripture and scripture dose not lie.

As it was Gods intentions to create man in his image and the only one that fits the bill is Jesus Christ at his second coming so he is the end of creation.

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O course scripture is true and God does not lie..

But when you get to the heart of it - none of us can really pervey God's true Character/heart/ because we have all missed the mark / fallen short/ Romans 3:23  for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, ][I have seen miscomings and effects in the most perfect of people] that can almost become like the pharisees in their ways of perfect walk - and examinations of other people..

You see I can never be the same as God - as a human being, I have to learn from my mistakes and in that I have to learn from memories..

But God on the other hand can chose to forget [as He knows all things] which we do not..and cannot ..

If we forget like God does - then we would be the most stupid of people- allowing the same stuff into our lives over and over and never learning..

We only emmit an aroma of Christ when we / live/ convey/ transmit/preach/ many times without knowing it / parts of God to  others.



The only time we will ever be like Christ or reach perfection - is when we are actually with Christ in Glory



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As it was Gods intentions to create man in his image and the only one that fits the bill is Jesus Christ at his second coming so he is the end of creation.

Not sure  you cannot collate the two together and make them both the same..

Hence in the image of is not a perfect creation - hence God sent His eternal Son to bridge the gap .


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« Reply #177 on: December 07, 2020, 11:50:13 AM »
But the Scripture in Genesis states God saying...made in our image.  Not 'your' image as if directing towards Jesus.

Hi Serenity
Thank you for your reply yes God did say in our image so how many dose the word our incorporate we know Christ was with the Father before the creation began because through him and for him all things were created.
Then we have the heavenly host how many they are nobody knows so when God said in our image did it mean God the Father the head of
everything and all the heavenly host which is those who serve God day and night and as such constitute the woman as Eve was created to be Adams helper.
And as the church was created to be Christs helper and bride so Christ is the Head and the church is the woman and this would correspond to God the Father and the heavenly host

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« Reply #178 on: December 07, 2020, 03:55:27 PM »
Hi TJ
Thank you for your reply Nobody has seen God

Joh 1:18  No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.      

Nobody has seen God But the son And the son is the express image of his person and the NT gives us a pretty good picture of the son so we have a good idea what the Father looks like and the son will be the image of the Father when he is united with his bride at is second coming this is man in the image of God the end of creation.

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The only time we will ever be like Christ or reach perfection - is when we are actually with Christ in Glory     

I don't think we will be like Christ, Christ is the head of the body the church his bride his woman who will always be subordinate to him his helper and servant.
then at the end of the millennium Christ will hand everything over to God the Father.

1Co 15:28  And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.     

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« Reply #179 on: December 07, 2020, 08:03:03 PM »



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« Reply #180 on: December 08, 2020, 12:56:40 AM »


I used too call the Rhema  "Acts 2020" or whatever year you live in.. wherein scripture goes on and lives beyond the written word..

Where God continues in an unwirtten realm [thnis is wheer all the new songs of worship and ongoing testimonies  come from...







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« Reply #181 on: December 08, 2020, 01:38:39 PM »
Hi Tj
Thank you for your post but it seams we are wondering of subject which is Genesis and creation as you know I maintain that creation is ongoing and there are scriptures that support this.

     Joh 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work         

So if the Father and Son were still working 2000 years ago it must mean God has not rested as we read in the letter to the Hebrews.

     For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

 4  For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

 5  And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

 6  Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: note

 7  Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

 8  For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. note

 9  There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. note

 10  For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.         


So here we see that the Fathers sabbath rest is a future event and we can enter into that rest and if the Fathers rest is future then it can only mean Creation is ongoing.

This brings into question how long will creation take ther creation account gives it as six days St peter tells us how long the days will be.

    2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day     

So the creation will last 7000 years and began with Noah the first creation was destroyed in the flood.

If anyone has a better interpretation of the above scripture I would like to hear them.

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« Reply #182 on: December 08, 2020, 04:29:21 PM »
This is the main crux of difference which makes this subject to go on with tbh. 
Creation started in the beginning with Adam not with Noah. 
The flood may have destroyed the living animals and people outside the ark. 
However, those from within the Ark...animals and people, were a continuum from the creation in the beginning. 

They were not transformed into a new creation, but simply in transit/transportation.
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« Reply #183 on: December 08, 2020, 05:35:06 PM »
This is the main crux of difference which makes this subject to go on with tbh. 
Creation started in the beginning with Adam not with Noah. 
The flood may have destroyed the living animals and people outside the ark. 
However, those from within the Ark...animals and people, were a continuum from the creation in the beginning. 

They were not transformed into a new creation, but simply in transit/transportation.

Hi Serenitythe Church
thank you for your reply yes everything God had created and wanted was on the ark the only thing missing was man in the image of God this is the only creation I am talking about the Adam that was created before the flood was ruined by the angels that came down and cohabited with the women so God destroyed that Adam.
so there was no Man in Gods image on the ark So God would have to create another and the only Adam that fits the Bill is the last Adam which is Christ.
Noah is not man in the Image of God Christ  he is the head of the Body and the Body is his Bride the church  this is Man in Gods image.

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Dave

 

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