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Offline Serenity

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #168 on: December 04, 2020, 08:17:41 PM »
Yes thanks. 
Romans 10 talks about none being righteous, not even one.  It is by faith righteousness comes about.  So was it Noah's faith that had God see him as righteous or something else?
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« Reply #169 on: December 05, 2020, 12:02:24 PM »
"When God said let us make man in our image it should be read as mankind in his Image when Christ has finished his millennial reign we will have mankind in the image of God with Christ Jesus our Lord as the head."

Sorry Dave God made man in his image right back in genesis. Adam and all his descendants are made in the image of God.
Marred and spoiled by sin, but still displaying those characteristics that show the image of God.

But there is another issue.
                                             People are valued because they are made in the image of God, now, not that they one day will be.
To deny this teaching opens up a way to regard peopleas not being special and valuable.


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Re: Genesis
« Reply #170 on: December 05, 2020, 12:07:27 PM »
Yes thanks. 
Romans 10 talks about none being righteous, not even one.  It is by faith righteousness comes about.  So was it Noah's faith that had God see him as righteous or something else?

Hi Serenity
Thank you for your reply why God deemed  Noah righteous I don't know but we do know he was chosen for a specific purpose and all through scripture there are those who are chosen.

     Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen       

So through all those who have been chosen the many have been called God chooses whom he will he dose not always chose the good and the righteous take St Paul as a prime example he  persecuted the church  of Christ but God chose him to become an apostle.

All through the bible God has chosen all his prophets he has chosen kings even the king of Babylonia to chastise his son Israel.
So all those who are chosen are chosen to further Gods plan of creation of mankind in his image which is Christ joined to his bride the church as we are told in Genesis.

      24  Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh         

Christs father and mother is Israel he would leave them and be joined to wife the church this is man in the image of God.

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Dave

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #171 on: December 06, 2020, 12:37:08 AM »
Depends what we see/define/perceive/as an image of..

 1. I can be the spitting image of my dad.

2. I can have legs and feet and arms and legs "like a human being".

3. I can portray an image.

4. I can have al the characteristics of the Father's [aroma].

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I could give you evidential info - for each .

But I will not do that [as tomorrow I will find myself deleting or editing the post / as I have to remain nuetral.  I cannot share stuff that may offend actual people that I have known - less I insue a lawsuit.




God breathed His Holy Spirit [Image] into Adam...



Trouble is it can be a false image -as we as "runners can portray a false image"

This world is all about image...how you look / how you perform/ how much money you have..[how much fame you have]

With women - it's all about looks/ beauty/ body/ hence all photos are tweaked -  and what you see is not the actual person or complexion. [it's all a lie] =-  in fact lie has resulted in multitudes losing their lives...



A good example [without mentioning people I know or knew ]  would be Karen Carpenter, what a great example of image.. and what a great singer ... I really feel for  her elder brother richard..
 

You never hear about the carpenters now[what a great image they had]  together..

Her husband denied her children and she said goodbye to love

Such a great loss and shame - that Karen died of anorexia nervosa.

Created by " image " wanting to look good.. [but inside she was not happy..

She had to put her career before anything else..[image]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nooeMrCws-A






Knowone ever cared if she should live or die..



Tragic - so tragic..

But that is not far from ourselves -0 she is just reflecting this - to us...



You have to take the word of God and  use it as a tool / never mind emotions or relationships  or silly images of what you are meant to be...

You see - satan uses and copies God and he will create all kinds of images, that  are pleasing  to you.. and you may even create unto yourelf an image to pervey to others - because that is how you want people to see you...



Alongside image you have to live this life..

That is so hard when you have every principality coming up agaisnt you [don't foeget that if you affect these powers - they will come agianst you....

Funny when I type in principality - it comes up with "Mortgages, Savings and Insurance | Principality Building ..."



I do not really care whether you guy's have ever experienced any of this... 







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Re: Genesis
« Reply #172 on: December 06, 2020, 01:25:47 AM »
I knew someone  who thought it was all about image.

He no longer ministers -today..

 


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« Reply #173 on: December 06, 2020, 10:58:42 AM »
"When God said let us make man in our image it should be read as mankind in his Image when Christ has finished his millennial reign we will have mankind in the image of God with Christ Jesus our Lord as the head."

Sorry Dave God made man in his image right back in genesis. Adam and all his descendants are made in the image of God.
Marred and spoiled by sin, but still displaying those characteristics that show the image of God.

But there is another issue.
                                             People are valued because they are made in the image of God, now, not that they one day will be.
To deny this teaching opens up a way to regard peopleas not being special and valuable.



Hi John
Thank you for your reply always good to have a different point of view makes for a good discussion.

Sorry  John but the bible tells us that Jesus Christ is the express image of God and it also tells us he is the last Adam it also tells us in Genesis that it is man and woman joined as one flesh that is man in the image of God.

So if Christ is the last Adam it stands to reason the first Adam would be created in the same way Christ is the man the head of the body the church his bride which is the woman this is man in the image of God.

Man is valued because God loves us and sent his son to die for us so we can be saved.

     Joh 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends     

Love and Peace
Dave




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Re: Genesis
« Reply #174 on: December 06, 2020, 11:38:26 AM »
Hi TJ
Thank you for your reply not sure what its meant to convey but what I am trying to get across is it is Christ who is the image of God and this is 100% true because it is stated in scripture and scripture dose not lie.

As it was Gods intentions to create man in his image and the only one that fits the bill is Jesus Christ at his second coming so he is the end of creation.

Love and Peace
Dave

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« Reply #175 on: December 06, 2020, 11:34:00 PM »
But the Scripture in Genesis states God saying...made in our image.  Not 'your' image as if directing towards Jesus.
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