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Re: Genesis
« Reply #136 on: October 30, 2020, 12:46:51 PM »
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   And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.  And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;  When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
Genesis 4:10-‬12 KJV
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Here Israel is cursed for killing his brother Christ and is made a fugitive  and a vagabond on the earth this happened in 70AD it was also when Israel ceased to  be nation Israel died which is the penalty for murder.
The reference to tilling the ground could be a reference  to Israel spreading  Gods word through  the nations they had been replaced by Christ and his church.

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #137 on: November 01, 2020, 02:26:20 PM »
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13And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.what
14Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.


It seams here that Cain ( Israel )  is sorry for what he has done and that the penalty for murder is death and no matter where he goes he will be hunted down and Killed and this culminated in Hitler's death Camps.
 anti Semitism has been with us ever since that time and is still with us to day and I believe it is satan who lies behind it trying to foil Gods plan which is

Romans 11:26 (KJV)
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:           
 

Not forgetting we have been grafted into the tree which is Israel

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #138 on: November 08, 2020, 05:00:48 PM »
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  15And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
16And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.   


Here we see after all Cain had done killing his brother God still protected him he did not say no one could kill Cain but if anyone did they would be punished.
what happened to Cain reflects what has happened to Israel after he had killed his Brother Christ they were thrown out of there Eden the land flowing with milk and honey which they had been given by God  and Israel became a wonderer on the earth this happened in AD 70 when Israel ceased to be a nation this happened 2000 years ago but now Israel is back in its own land to fulfil the prophecies written about them all Israel will be saved.

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #139 on: November 10, 2020, 12:40:25 PM »
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    And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Genesis 4:17 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.4.17.KJV     


A verse that has been a bone of contention ever since it was written where did Cain find a wife where did he find enough people to build a city.

Here's  my explanation on the 5 th day of creation  God said.

      And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:25 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.1.25.KJV     


Note the words everything that creepeth this included humans when God said

   And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Genesis 1:26 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.1.26.KJV         


When God said these words mankind already existed what did not exist was man in the image of God so God set about the work to achieve  this this would take the same form as he would use to create Israel after the flood.
So the man created before the flood was a whole nation of people not just one man.
When Cain was thrown out of Eden he married one of the women who lived outside Eden likewise he used the people outside Eden to build a city.

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #140 on: November 11, 2020, 01:02:23 PM »
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So no rebuttal so must have got it right :azn:

So the man created in Gods image before the flood would be the same as the man after the flood Israel and then the new creation Jesus Christ our Lord.
God uses the same creation process every time man in the image of God is not one man but all of mankind who are the body of Christ at the end of the millennium
The millennium is the Fathers sabbath rest when Christ hands everything back to the Father we will have the crowning glory of creation man in the image of God.

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #141 on: November 14, 2020, 11:47:04 AM »
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     And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.  And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.  And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.  And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.  And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.  And Zillah, she also bare Tubal?cain, an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubal?cain was Naamah.  And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.  If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.
Genesis 4:17-‬24 KJV
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Not a lot to say on this section seams to be a list of names I can't pronounce seams to be saying about man's progressing from the primitive  to the using of tools and musical instruments this could have taken a long time.

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #142 on: November 16, 2020, 01:07:06 PM »
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      And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.  And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord .
Genesis 4:25-‬26 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.4.25-26.KJV     


An interesting couple of verses in a way it mirrors what was to happen our Lord came into the world Israel killed our Lord Cain killed Able God gives another son mirrors the resurrection.
What I find strange is through Seth and Enos men began to call on the name of the Lord but just before the flood only Noah was found to be righteous one would think there would be more food for thought.

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Dave

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #143 on: November 20, 2020, 12:14:28 PM »
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        This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;  Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Genesis 5:1-‬2 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.5.1-2.KJV         
   

This is an interesting piece man in the likeness of God what dose he look like he was created male and female and called Adam which is man so man and woman together as one is man in the image of God.
And the only one who fits the bill is Jesus Christ when he is united with his bride the church think what this will look like Christ the head and the church his bride joined as one this is man in the image of God role on his return so that creation can be completed.

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Dave
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