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Re: Genesis
« Reply #128 on: October 12, 2020, 01:48:26 PM »
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     Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
Genesis 3:21 KJV
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Another difficult  verse before the fall they were naked
I take this to mean they were perfect they did not need any protection  God was their protection.
After the fall they needed protection  when God clothed them in skins it put them on the same level as the animals then God began the process  of bringing mankind back to its original  perfection.

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #129 on: October 14, 2020, 01:12:36 PM »
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     And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Genesis 3:22 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.3.22.KJV       


This is a little strange Gods intention  was to create man in his image and to be like God we have to have the knowledge  of good and evil but when man received that knowledge  he was not allowed  to inherit  eternal life.
So how did the man receive  this knowledge  if like I say Israel is the first man of the creation that began with Noah then the man received  the
 knowledge  through the law the law tells us what sin is it is the knowledge  of good and evil.
The tree of life of course is our Lord Jesus Christ and this is why he was taken into heaven after his crucifixion we need to consider God's word over long periods of time.
But we who believe know we will have direct  access to our Lord when he returns to take up hi rightful  place as king of Kings.

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #130 on: October 20, 2020, 12:34:45 PM »
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    Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.  So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Genesis 3:23-‬24 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.3.23-24.KJV       


I believe this happened  in 70AD when the man Israel was driven out of the land of milk and honey Israel ceased to be a nation Adam died.
They had rejected our Lord and Saviour so they were not allowed  to have access to the tree of life which is our Lord Jesus.

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #131 on: October 20, 2020, 07:47:08 PM »
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    Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.  So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Genesis 3:23-‬24 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.3.23-24.KJV       


I believe this happened  in 70AD when the man Israel was driven out of the land of milk and honey Israel ceased to be a nation Adam died.
They had rejected our Lord and Saviour so they were not allowed  to have access to the tree of life which is our Lord Jesus.

Love and Peace
Dave
Have you actually read the bible! To say that Adam was driven out of Eden in ad70 is pure fantasy.  That is not how genesis or the new testament reads it is rampant imagination with no bases in biblical reality.

You should be ashamed to spout nonsense like this.
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.3.23-24.KJV

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Re: Genesis
« Reply #132 on: October 21, 2020, 10:45:35 AM »
Have you actually read the bible! To say that Adam was driven out of Eden in ad70 is pure fantasy.  That is not how genesis or the new testament reads it is rampant imagination with no bases in biblical reality.

You should be ashamed to spout nonsense like this.

Hi John
Thank you for your post yes I have read my bible from cover to cover and continue to read have you.
So what dose it say.

    When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.
Hosea 11:1 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/hos.11.1.KJV       

  And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
Matthew 2:15 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.2.15.KJV     


As you can see if you read the above text both Israel and Christ  are said to be Gods son or are you saying the scriptures are wrong..
So it stands to reason if Israel is Gods first son of this creation then he is the first Adam and Christ is the last Adam they were both called out of Egypt Israel had 12 tribes Christ had 12 apostles the they both follow the same path which is the creation of man in the image of God.

       Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Hebrews 1:2-‬3 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/heb.1.2-3.KJV         


So it stands to reason as Christ is the express image of the Father and Christ and Israel are brothers then Israel is also created in the image of God only difference is Israel sinned Christ did not.
So as Christ and Israel are brothers they mirror all  the story of cain and Able the older brother kills the younger brother.

If what I say is nonsense please prove me wrong give me a better explanation for Genesis other than God created man in 6 24 hour days then put his feet up and has rested ever since.

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Dave
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Re: Genesis
« Reply #133 on: October 27, 2020, 12:47:29 PM »
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     And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord .  And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Genesis 4:1-‬2 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.4.1-2.KJV           


So dose Cain And Able represent Israel and Christ we know the tribe of Judah took over in Jerusalem as the head separated  from the rest of Israel a separate man represents Cain.
We know our Lord came out of Israel and Able represents Christ the younger brother this is why throughout scripture it is always the younger brother  who is chosen.

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Dave



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Re: Genesis
« Reply #134 on: October 28, 2020, 12:18:14 PM »
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       And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord .  And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:  But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.  And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?  If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
Genesis 4:3-‬7 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.4.3-7.KJV     


Here we can see the difference between Israel and Christ in the story of Cain and Able the fruit of the ground that Cain brought  was Israel a nation that had sinned and worshipped idols completely  unacceptable.
Able on the other hand who represents Christ brings the firstlings of the flock are Christs first decipels and apostles  our Lord is the good shepherd.

    I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
John 10:11 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/jhn.10.11.KJV     


Isn't it wonderful that we can trace the stories in Genesis in the history of Israel and Christianity.

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Dave
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Re: Genesis
« Reply #135 on: October 29, 2020, 12:47:14 PM »
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  And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.  And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
Genesis 4:8-‬9 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.4.8-9.KJV           


Here we see the story  Cain killing his younger brother Able this is the same story of Israel the older brother killing his younger brother Jesus Christ again we see the stories of Genesis being played out in Israel's history it can't  be a coincidence.
When God asks Cain where his Able is he denied  he knew anything about him as Israel was todo the denied that Christ was was the son of God who was sent into the world to save them.

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Dave
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