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Does the bible say Adam was the first human?
« on: May 12, 2020, 04:16:40 AM »
Hello everyone, I hope you're all well. I wanted to start a discussion about what Genesis teaches, particularly if Adam was the first human to be created. I think that it is perfectly reasonable, looking at the first two chapters of Genesis, that mankind was created in chapter one and then an unspecified amount of time elapsed before Adam was created in Chapter 2. This reading would, of course be more consistent with what we know from scientists. My theory is that God created mankind as specified in Genesis 1:27, blessed them and told them to be fruitful and subdue the earth (v28) and later (many millennia if scientists are correct) created Adam. I would be delighted to discuss these ideas with anyone who may be interested. God bless you all!
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Re: Does the bible say Adam was the first human?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2020, 01:28:51 PM »
Hello everyone, I hope you're all well. I wanted to start a discussion about what Genesis teaches, particularly if Adam was the first human to be created. I think that it is perfectly reasonable, looking at the first two chapters of Genesis, that mankind was created in chapter one and then an unspecified amount of time elapsed before Adam was created in Chapter 2. This reading would, of course be more consistent with what we know from scientists. My theory is that God created mankind as specified in Genesis 1:27, blessed them and told them to be fruitful and subdue the earth (v28) and later (many millennia if scientists are correct) created Adam. I would be delighted to discuss these ideas with anyone who may be interested. God bless you all!
   

Hi Strobe
Thank you for your question I have been giving my opinion on Genesifor some time although it don't go down to sell on here.

.  en 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth       

Man here is mankind when God said these words there was an untold number of humans living on the planet then he says in our likeness how many dose the word our incorporate is it God and all his angels.

Would one-man and one woman be enough to look after the whole creation of course not but when Christ returns and gathers together all those who belong to him then there will be enough.

Genesis 1 and 2 should be read after revelations as the history of mankind creation is still ongoing if not then God would have failed on more than one occasion.

Something to think about Israel is the first Adam of this creation

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Re: Does the bible say Adam was the first human?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2020, 02:01:14 PM »
   


.  en 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth       


I'm not sure about Adam being created later, or not .
Just I find that verse " let us make man in our image, after our likeness" interesting, because it was before Jesus was manifested in human flesh. John 1:1-14.

Yet was it not so for God, who is outside of time and forknows all.

Also in the garden of Eden, is a reference of hearing God walking in the garden. Genesis 3:8

That suggests God in human form, which could only be Jesus because God the Father is Spirit. Unless it means something else. Many might say that some of  genesis is metaphoric, or pictorial language.
As that causes so much controversy, I'd rather not say either way.

 

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Re: Does the bible say Adam was the first human?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2020, 04:00:44 PM »
I'm not sure about Adam being created later, or not .
Just I find that verse " let us make man in our image, after our likeness" interesting, because it was before Jesus was manifested in human flesh. John 1:1-14.

Yet was it not so for God, who is outside of time and forknows all.

Also in the garden of Eden, is a reference of hearing God walking in the garden. Genesis 3:8

That suggests God in human form, which could only be Jesus because God the Father is Spirit. Unless it means something else. Many might say that some of  genesis is metaphoric, or pictorial language.
As that causes so much controversy, I'd rather not say either way.

 

I'm not sure about Adam being created later, or not .
Just I find that verse " let us make man in our image, after our likeness" interesting, because it was before Jesus was manifested in human flesh. John 1:1-14.

Yet was it not so for God, who is outside of time and forknows all.

Also in the garden of Eden, is a reference of hearing God walking in the garden. Genesis 3:8

That suggests God in human form, which could only be Jesus because God the Father is Spirit. Unless it means something else. Many might say that some of  genesis is metaphoric, or pictorial language.
As that causes so much controversy, I'd rather not say either way.

 

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Re: Does the bible say Adam was the first human?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2020, 08:22:59 PM »
I'm not sure about Adam being created later, or not .
Just I find that verse " let us make man in our image, after our likeness" interesting, because it was before Jesus was manifested in human flesh. John 1:1-14.

Yet was it not so for God, who is outside of time and forknows all.

Also in the garden of Eden, is a reference of hearing God walking in the garden. Genesis 3:8

That suggests God in human form, which could only be Jesus because God the Father is Spirit. Unless it means something else. Many might say that some of  genesis is metaphoric, or pictorial language.
As that causes so much controversy, I'd rather not say either way.

 

After reading genesis 3:8 more carefully KJV. It says:
They heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day.

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Re: Does the bible say Adam was the first human?
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2020, 12:53:46 AM »
After reading genesis 3:8 more carefully KJV. It says:
They heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day.

Jesus as the Word of God walked and talked and ate and drank ans  had His feet washed by Abraham[Gen 18] - He also talked to Moses face to face - Numbers 12:6-8 - wincam
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Re: Does the bible say Adam was the first human?
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2020, 11:46:13 AM »
Hi
It all boils down to what does man in God's image look like there is only one person in the whole of scripture who is said to be the image of God and that is Christ.

.   Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high         

So if we want to know what man in the image of God looks like we need to look to Jesus the son of God The last Adam at his second coming when he and his bride become one this is man ( mankind ) in the image of God.
There is another son of God of course the first Adam of this creation which of course is Israel

.      Hos 11:1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt 

So the nation of Israel is God's son in what respect is it Adam the head of Israel was Moses represents God his helper the woman is the high priest and the priesthood the other tribes are the children now take this picture and apply it to the world at the end of the millennium and you have mankind in the image of God.

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Re: Does the bible say Adam was the first human?
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2020, 12:43:25 AM »
   

Hi Strobe
Thank you for your question I have been giving my opinion on Genesifor some time although it don't go down to sell on here.

.  en 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth       

Man here is mankind when God said these words there was an untold number of humans living on the planet then he says in our likeness how many dose the word our incorporate is it God and all his angels.

Would one-man and one woman be enough to look after the whole creation of course not but when Christ returns and gathers together all those who belong to him then there will be enough.

Genesis 1 and 2 should be read after revelations as the history of mankind creation is still ongoing if not then God would have failed on more than one occasion.

Something to think about Israel is the first Adam of this creation

Love and peace
Dave
Hi Dave. This is very interesting, if I understand you correctly (BTW I think a little more care in punctuation would help here!) you are saying that God created mankind, then said "let us make man in our image" then, in order to accomplish that, formed Adam. This way round would certainly fit in better with my theory but I can't make that fit with the wording unless there's something I'm missing. It seems to me that God created man in His image and then later formed Adam. I really want it to be as you suggest but it seems a bit of a stretch. The way I've been thinking is that humanity was made in the image of God but when Adam fell we lost that image until Jesus' work is completed when He returns. But that begs the question "what was the purpose of Adam in that case?" Either way, I don't think we are yet in the image of God but rather we are a work in progress to become so. More info please here. Thanks again, this could turn out to be a great discussion. Shalom.
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