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Offline wincam

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Who is Jesus ?
« on: November 17, 2019, 07:29:03 PM »
it seems according to the Bible that in spite of all the books written, sermons given etc no church or theologian or bible scholar or Evangelist knows or accepts who Jesus really is - so He is still rejected and unaccepted[Jn 5:46] - wincam
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Re: Who is Jesus ?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2019, 09:17:18 AM »
It would help if you actually said how Chriostians today do not believe what Moses wrote about Jesus.

As far as I am concerned Christians do believe what Moses wrote about him, so you need to prove your case that Christian don't believe, by quoting your evidence.

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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2019, 11:17:19 AM »
It would help if you actually said how Chriostians today do not believe what Moses wrote about Jesus.

As far as I am concerned Christians do believe what Moses wrote about him, so you need to prove your case that Christian don't believe, by quoting your evidence.




guess what Moses wrote [Jn5:46] that Jesus stated about Himself at Ex20:1-5 that is not accepted- wincam
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Re: Who is Jesus ?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2019, 11:51:32 AM »
Hi
The only thing I can think Wincam is trying to say is that Christ is saying he is God the Farther we are back to the trinity again but all he is saying is he is the God who took them out of Egypt yes Jesus is the God and father of the creation of all things in our world but above him is the Father who is greater than him as Christ makes plain.

.     Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

From the lips of our Lord the father is greater than I so they can not be one and the same.

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Re: Who is Jesus ?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2019, 12:35:18 PM »
Hi
I just realised I got it wrong the one who spoke to Moses on the mountain was God the Father because the Father created Israel and said out of Egypt I called my son Israel is God's son as is Christ.

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Re: Who is Jesus ?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2019, 06:20:18 PM »
Hi
I just realised I got it wrong the one who spoke to Moses on the mountain was God the Father because the Father created Israel and said out of Egypt I called my son Israel is God's son as is Christ.

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so here it is the refusal to accept what Jesus said and Moses wrote - some would even rather accept that God has two sons rather than that the Father and I ARE ONE - HE WHO HAS THE SON HAS THE FATHER - he who has seen me has seen the Father etc - btw God can easily be in two or more places or persons at the same time viz Father in heaven and son on earth - wincam
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2019, 08:11:31 AM »
Exodous20: And God spoke all these words:

2 ?I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 ?You shall have no other gods before[a] me.

4 ?You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

It is roman catholics who make images and bow down to them not protestants.

Yes you don't regard protestants as Christian, yet you are accusing us of your sins.

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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2019, 11:30:45 AM »
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so here it is the refusal to accept what Jesus said and Moses wrote - some would even rather accept that God has two sons rather than that the Father and I ARE ONE - HE WHO HAS THE SON HAS THE FATHER - he who has seen me has seen the Father etc - btw God can easily be in two or more places or persons at the same time viz Father in heaven and son on earth - wincam



Hi Wincam
Still trying to promote the trinity I see no such thing the one who spoke to Moses on the mountain was God the father I say this because.

.    Exo 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen   

As we know no one can see the Father and live but there those who have seen Christ and lived.

Love and Peace
Dave

 

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