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Re: who is my neighbour
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2020, 01:09:06 AM »

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True love is righteous judgement.

Matthew 7
 
2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

12 So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

13 Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

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Re: who is my neighbour
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2020, 10:43:34 AM »
Hi Cacadores
Thank you for your reply what the verses you quote are saying is we should not judge we have a righteous judge best leave it to him.
The greatest power in the universe is Love God is LOVE.

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Re: who is my neighbour
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2020, 09:12:51 PM »
Hi Cacadores
Thank you for your reply what the verses you quote are saying is we should not judge we have a righteous judge best leave it to him.
The greatest power in the universe is Love God is LOVE.

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Thank you. I hope you understand my utterence.

Let's not get so sure about what verses mean. The ultimate meaning is beyond us by definition which is why we need to keep the verse where we find it.

We quote Bible verses to point to their place in context, and to their truth. Nor ours. Which we may partially discern.

So the words "sacrifice" and "judgement" have two meanings, depending on the direction of view.  The meta-meaning is that both meanings are true simultaneously. Both need to be viewed on a time line.

So: judgement is consciousness. Every choice of viewpoint is a judgement. To where does our eyeball pivot? That's a choice. It's free will.  For Adam in the walled garden it may have been parallel to God's thoughts. But since Adam, the choice to not choose is itself a choice. A judgement.

Judgements are therefore plans for the future. We must judge. We are enjoined by God to judge and to judge well.

Now, as for judging others, that is a part of judgement for the future. And like our plans for the future we will face judgement for wrong choices. Therefore, if I judge another in righteousness, I put up myself to be judged.

Something that is inevitable. Unavoidable.

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Re: who is my neighbour
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2020, 10:43:04 AM »
Thank you. I hope you understand my utterence.

Let's not get so sure about what verses mean. The ultimate meaning is beyond us by definition which is why we need to keep the verse where we find it.

Why on earth would God give us the scriptures if he did not want us to understand it.
My reference to St Paul in the other thread proves that verses can be used to further the understanding of God's word the NT is peppered with verses from the OT are the all out of  context?




We quote Bible verses to point to their place in context, and to their truth. Nor ours. Which we may partially discern.

So the words "sacrifice" and "judgement" have two meanings, depending on the direction of view.  The meta-meaning is that both meanings are true simultaneously. Both need to be viewed on a time line.

So: judgement is consciousness. Every choice of viewpoint is a judgement. To where does our eyeball pivot? That's a choice. It's free will.  For Adam in the walled garden it may have been parallel to God's thoughts. But since Adam, the choice to not choose is itself a choice. A judgement.

Judgements are therefore plans for the future. We must judge. We are enjoined by God to judge and to judge well.

Now, as for judging others, that is a part of judgement for the future. And like our plans for the future we will face judgement for wrong choices. Therefore, if I judge another in righteousness, I put up myself to be judged.

Something that is inevitable. Unavoidable.

yes we make judgement all the time but we should not make judgement with evil intent and we should not judge others because by that measure we will be judged

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Dave

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Re: who is my neighbour
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2020, 05:14:53 PM »
Impossible. No boss would be able to discriminate in an interview if he couldn't judge others. We judge every time we choose a friend. Or the best man for the job.

And why shy away from judgement, just because we will be judged? We're going to get judged anyway.

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Re: who is my neighbour
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2020, 11:46:49 AM »
Hi
So who is my neighbour I would think the human race as a whole and we who are the body of Christ should love them as our Lord loved them and died for them.
So let his light and Love shine in us who belong to him.

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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2020, 10:34:42 AM »

In the Gospel of Luke 6:35-36 But love those who hate you. Do good to them. Let them use your things and do not expect something back. Your reward will be much. You will be the children of the Most High. He is kind to those who are not thankful and to those who are full of sin. You must have loving-kindness just as your Father has loving-kindness.

Those words of Christ are more than enough for me and so every man, woman and child made in the likeness of God (Genesis 1:26) is my neighbour and my love for them is not the sentimentalised version as portrayed by today's sycophantic media but the love that is described by Paul in 1Corinthians 13.

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