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Re: The words of Jesus
« Reply #72 on: December 24, 2019, 02:27:16 PM »
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Moving on.

Mat 8:20  And Jesus said to him, ?Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.?      

I think our Lord is saying here that he had not been accepted he was an outsider there was no Love from the priesthood they did not love their neighbour they had pushed him away instead they should have offered him food and clothing and a place to stay he was a stranger they should have welcomed him with Love.

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Re: The words of Jesus
« Reply #73 on: December 26, 2019, 11:45:12 AM »
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The next words of our Lord.

. 22  But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead         

Seems a bit harsh but I think what our Lord means is following him is more important than anything else the dead here are those who have not been saved they are dead in there sins.
Those who are saved are alive for ever in Christ for ever.

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Re: The words of Jesus
« Reply #74 on: December 29, 2019, 02:28:13 PM »
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Moving on

Mat 8:26  And he said to them, ?Why are you afraid, O you of little faith??       

Our Lord said this to his discipels when they were in danger of drowning but do these words also apply to us do we live in fear of the the world and the things around us are we afraid of dying is it not true if we are in Christ we can not die we have eternal life is our faith so weak.
Let us build up our faith day by day and we will fear for nothing the world can do to us we are in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Psa_56:11  in God I trust; I shall not be afraid. What can man do to me?
Psa_118:6  The LORD is on my side; I will not fear. What can man do to me?
Heb_13:6  So we can confidently say, ?The Lord is my helper; I will not fear; what can man do to me??       
   

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Re: The words of Jesus
« Reply #75 on: January 02, 2020, 04:17:15 PM »
Hi
Next we have the healing of the paralytic.


Mat 9:2  And behold, some people brought to him a paralytic, lying on a bed. And when Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, ?Take heart, my son; your sins are forgiven.?
Mat 9:3  And behold, some of the scribes said to themselves, ?This man is blaspheming.?
Mat 9:4  But Jesus, knowing their thoughts, said, ?Why do you think evil in your hearts?
Mat 9:5  For which is easier, to say, ?Your sins are forgiven,? or to say, ?Rise and walk??
Mat 9:6  But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins??he then said to the paralytic??Rise, pick up your bed and go home.?       


Its interesting that our Lord says their faith was it the faith of those carrying the sick man that caused Jesus to heal him and forgive him.
of course the scribes did not like him forgiving sin according to them it was blasphemy they where still not accepting who he was even when he performed miracles that only God could do they refused to accept who he was their thoughts were evil then Jesus proves he has authority to forgive sins.
He was given authority from the Father so in a way the scribes were right that forgiveness comes from the Father through the son.

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Re: The words of Jesus
« Reply #76 on: January 03, 2020, 01:39:16 AM »
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I was thinking we discus all sorts of things from scripture but we very rarely discus what our Lord had to say so I thought it may be of great interest to look at what he had to say if anyone would like to join in please do if you have a favourite saying of our Lord please post it and what it means to you.

so lets begin with his first words.

?Let it be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.?   

Our Lord said these words at his baptism by John the Baptist what dose  to fulfill all righteousness. I mean why was it necessary for him to be baptised  he was sinless he did not need to die to sin and be born again as we do.
It was the right thing to do why was it  right was it because he had to follow the same path as Israel when the new generation came out of the wilderness they were baptised in the Jorden.

It's an interesting post. Let me put a different take on it.

Jesus never said he was sinless.

Gabriel, John and Paul indicated He was righteous and holy, therefore indicating He was without sin.

But what Jesus said was:

(John chapter 8 ) , "Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? He who belongs to God hears what God says. . ."

I believe that it does little good to get tied up in a doctrinal issue that Jesus himself did not make a doctrine of. Even if His followers did.

Did Jesus not sin when He was a baby or young child? I don't think it's important. Jesus tells us what's important: that he tells the Truth. He says it twice.

It is said that Christ bore witness to His sinlessness when He said, ?the one who seeks the glory of him who sent him is true, and in him there is no falsehood? (John 7:18).

I don't see it. What I read is an attestation to the Truth, not to sinlessness. Jesus manifests the Truth which is a manifestation of the Beginning. Especially as this is from the Gospel of John.

John 1:
1 In the beginning was the Word (Logos) , and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Logos was God.

Then, on the cross, John, in chapter 19 wrote:

28?After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

Logos, the Word, the Truth, scripture, fulfilled.

What was the reason John the Baptist baptised people? Matthew has the most to say:
It is described as:

- accompanying ?repentance? (Matt. 3:2);
- in conjunction with people ?confessing their sins? (Matt. 3:6); and
- as the means by which to ?flee from the coming wrath? (Matt. 3:7).

We might note the obvious that Baptism for an adult is a symbol of mental or spiritual clensing prior to voluntary dedication to the God that Jesus had already identified as His 'Father'. Jesus' mission gains impetus, strength and power.

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Re: The words of Jesus
« Reply #77 on: January 03, 2020, 11:31:30 AM »
Hi Cacadores
Welcome to the site and thank you for your reply some good points made.
Was Christ sinless what happened before his baptism we are not told so anything we say would be speculation.
After his baptism he was taken into the wilderness and tempted by the devil the result of this we are told about in Hebrews.

. Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. View more

Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation       


So he was tempted and was without sin but he carried our sins the sins of the world to the cross to give us forgiveness.

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Re: The words of Jesus
« Reply #78 on: January 03, 2020, 11:09:57 PM »
Jesus was not crucified for being sinless but for telling the truth. However the truth drew out the sin in the ordinary people that left him to die and presents us with a contrast and choice at the point of death: their sin verses his purity: to let the spirit  of God into our heart or sin.

I'm still trying to work out what it means to say Christ  died for our sins. Jesus, who was pure in heart, paid the penalty for the sins ranged against him.

Does that mean he paid the penalty for all mankind's sins for all time? Was he the lamb sacrificed to atone for my transgressions?

 Jesus said:

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned" (John 3:16,17).

Which refers to His life and mission. He was condemned for reportedly using the title "King of the Jews": a blasphamy to the rabbis and sedition to Pilot. Although Pilot thought so little of it that he didn't bother executing Jesus' close followers. Nevertheless Pilot eventually lost his job for indulging in large-scale executions.

His followers certainly state his death atoned for our sins:

(1John 2:2) And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

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Re: The words of Jesus
« Reply #79 on: January 10, 2020, 06:35:17 PM »
Hi
Moving on to the next section.

.  12  But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.

 13  But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance       


Ok think that Jesus is not talking about physical sickness but sinners sin is a sickness that leads to death and the only cure we have is the forgiveness through the sacrifice of Christ.
He came to call sinners to repentance to have mercy on sinners he was speaking to the Jews he was saying he did not want sacrifice although it was required under the law so mercy and Love are better than the law.

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