Strange christianity

[Serenity]

God can speak to you or reach out as my signature line suggests....GOD CAN USE ANYTHING, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME, ANYONE, ANYHOW, FOR HIS GOOD AND PURPOSE. 

It is not good to box Him up or streamline how He can speak to you.  The Bible tells you that Jesus did many things not written, there is not enough paper to cover it!. 

It is making the Bible an idol aswell as minimising God to suggest it encompasses all about Him, including words and actions, from past, present and future.  I do not prescribe to such things.

[TJ's]

the blind man that sinned before he was born?

Adam and Eve were without sin - until they sinned...

[TJ's]

the blind man that sinned before he was born?

As an infant I sinned [but how can I sin before I was born ?]

The blind man was never  judged in this life [ because he sinnecd before he was born] we are all born as sinners - we are all blind and that is how we are born

[TJ's]

You are contradicting yourself....

Firstly you say

its reincarnation because you can not sin before birth.

Then you say

the blind man that sinned before he was born?

Which one is it ?

[jaybird]

Hi Jaybird
The Bible as we have it is the word of God it is as God wants it to be and it is not the word of Man we have a God that created the heavens and the earth and I am sure he could produce a book as he wants it to be and not as man wants it to be.
if men could influence the Bible then its not the word of God we cannot rely on it.
As for God speaking to us he dose it every day through his  Glorious creation

Love and Peace
Dave

if it were not possible for man to add or take from scripture then there would be no point in the Most High saying not to do it or face judgment.

1 John 5 7 was changed to support the trinity doctrine
Rom 3 28 the word "alone" was added to support the faith alone doctrine.

all bible scholars agree on these.

[jaybird]

Adam and Eve were without sin - until they sinned...

exactly, they had to commit a sin before they became sinners.

[jaybird]

As an infant I sinned [but how can I sin before I was born ?]

The blind man was never  judged in this life [ because he sinnecd before he was born] we are all born as sinners - we are all blind and that is how we are born

He received his sight because Jesus saw [the attack] as the accuser Revelation 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.

i think we are born with a sinful nature, not born as a sinner, i think Ezekiel is pretty clear on the fact that the son is not punished for the sins of the father, there is an entire passage dedicated to one being held accountable for his own sins, not the sins of someone else. i think its also important to remember that the original sin doctrine didnt exist till four hundred years after Jesus and the 12.

The same thing happenned to Paul or Saul...


No actually it's the upside down kingdom...


God takes those who are the lowest and elevates them to the highest [whether in this life or the next - really is not seen by most]

I remember my  first "Church house group" it was all about ladders"

A great bible study and house group..

It took over from my "usual partnership meeting"

Becase of that "house group" - I was unable to attend my last partnership meeting.. [our new /third partner used my abscence for his own advantage]

That ended up costing  me over 10.000 pounds over ten years... [hence my  doing good - ended up costing me dearly]

Not just money wise - but I lost my original partner - also.. a nd that partneship was worht more than money and of any value]

I would like to annihilate that person  [the thid partner]- as i knew what he was doing and his intentions "of the heart"but actually - A lady came into his life [that fell head over heels with him] she subsequently married him...

The last time I saw this guy - he was boasting and bragging about how well he was doing,,

God did not judge him in this life [as I would have wanted]

That's the annoying thing [ God does not judge as we judge / based on our principles or prsonal judgement / He does not judge / per our hearts - or how we think He should...



The message is that God forgives and forgets through Christ - though we do not forget ][if we did forget then we would never learn] - But God does forgive and forget [ I do not know how He does that] - if he was unable to forget - then we wouild all be in big trouble...


As we are all sinners and only Jesus  can forgive me [as He never sinned]..

Really does not matter whether a person murders me and lives to tell the tale...

That person must be forgiven so that I am ..

Hence "I work out my own salvation"

Really deos not matter what your minister thinks or his siblings [ you may have to even go agaisnt your own family] friends and neighbours...




That is the cost.. [it's a far greater cost - than money - it evaluates your morals and principles and divides your heart..

It really is a strange Christianity...

I agree.

i agree, the Most High forgives, i am happy that Jesus came to remind us all of that.

[jaybird]

You are contradicting yourself....

Firstly you say

Then you say
Which one is it ?

he sinned so bad in one life that he was punished in the next? im not sure how that contradicts anything?