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Offline Bernard

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Strange christianity
« on: June 24, 2019, 02:58:33 AM »
How accurite is it, the early christians believed in reincarnation, according to several resource. Some still do, saying God works slowly, resurrection is reincarnation not instant.
How strange.

Bible they quote John the Baptist was Elijah.
Job 1:21 in some older versions
The man born blind. The disiples asked if he sinned or his parents sinned, to be born blind.

Reincarnation  ::)

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Re: Strange christianity
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2019, 07:39:15 AM »
In the New Testament it says, "People are destined to die once, and after that to face judgement." (Hebrews 9:27) So the first Christians did not believe in reincarnation.
False teachings have always been around though, so it's perfectly possible that some of them did. But the apostles never taught it.
"Blessed is the one who always trembles before God,
but whoever hardens their heart falls into trouble." (Proverbs 28:14)

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Re: Strange christianity
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2019, 10:09:36 AM »
Jesus said that John the Baptist would come in the spirit and power of Elijah. That is not  reincarnation.

John 1:21 directly says John the baptist is not Elijah.

The disciples may have asked many strange questions to Jesus and tried to stop people from coming to Him. Including women. They however learned many things from Jesus and were transformed.

The question asking if the man was blind because of his sin or parents sin, showed their ignorance and attitude and that Jesus was willing to heal those who are marginilised by society.

The disciples had their ignorance and attitudes challenged by Jesus. They were changed through their time with them. The man was blind because of a fallen world and sin passed down that brings defects to us all.

 Not directly as some sort of judgement, from his parents or anything that was expected and foreknown, before he was born.

The whole episode shows that Jesus can heal anyone and that no one should think the marginilised of society are not counted.

These scriptures do not show reincarnation. The epistles did not teach it but taught resurrection.


The scripture in Job shows that no one is born with anything of earthly value and necessity  no one dies with any earthly value and necessity, like clothes. The Lord gave and the Lord takes away.  The point is to think on to God and things of God. To die in union with Christ, is to have eternal values and life.

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Re: Strange christianity
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2019, 12:09:13 PM »
Can anyone make any sense of Luke 9:27 some here not taste death, until they see the Kingdom of God?

The promise of  many sisters, brothers, wives, husbands , children and  land in the life to come. If the bible says there will be no marriage.

Confused. :o

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Re: Strange christianity
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2019, 12:21:30 PM »
Mark 10:30  says mothers.
Now completely confused.
Other bible scripture says  spouse for more than one.

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Re: Strange christianity
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2019, 01:39:20 PM »
Can anyone make any sense of Luke 9:27 some here not taste death, until they see the Kingdom of God?

The promise of  many sisters, brothers, wives, husbands , children and  land in the life to come. If the bible says there will be no marriage.

Confused. :o
Luke 9:27
There are three possible interpretations:
1) That Jesus was predicting the end of the world within 70 years and got it wrong (I think we can discount this one!)
2) That Jesus was referring to the Transfiguration, which three disciples were going to witness about a week later (this doesn't make much sense in my opinion, as there's nothing very amazing about living for one week)
3) That Jesus was referring to the spread of the Kingdom of God, beginning at Pentecost - and by the time John (the last surviving apostle) died at the end of the first century, there were Christians (citizens of God's Kingdom) all over the Roman Empire. I go for this one.

Mark 10:30
Jesus is promising that whatever we have to give up to become a disciple, we will not lose out.
If our families disown us, we will find that we have a much bigger family (brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers) in the Church.
If we are kicked out of our homes, members of our Christian family will take us in.
If our possessions are taken from us (or if we give them to the poor), we will benefit from equivalent gifts as we share everything in our Christian family.
"Blessed is the one who always trembles before God,
but whoever hardens their heart falls into trouble." (Proverbs 28:14)

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Re: Strange christianity
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2019, 02:05:09 PM »
Hi

.    26  For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.

 27  But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God   


As we see from v 26 Christ is speaking about his return and those believers standing there who are alive will not see death the will be translated.

.  1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord       

Love and Peace
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Re: Strange christianity
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2019, 02:51:16 PM »
 Thank you all. That helped.

 

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