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Offline John

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Re: The UKs christian roots
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2019, 07:22:54 PM »
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Chesterton said it :- ' When you remove belief in God you replace it with belief in anything!'

Which is what we are seeing today.

Tes Johnson

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Re: The UKs christian roots
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2019, 01:47:10 AM »
People behave according to how they are taught by upbringing, society and belief.

I used to think and  believe that as well..

But it is not always so.

I remember an old friend who took a young lady to a Church ....she was removed/asked to leave /they were asked to leave  [as the congregation were concerned about the influence - this young lady had on the ministers daughter..]

This young lady [the ministers daughter]  went completely wild - and became a completely different person to the way she was brought up.

In fact it cost the Minister his job..

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I remember a house group leader - who gave up leadership and I asked  my friend "why did he stop house group  ?


I could not understand it at the time - because the answer was "he had to give up due to his children's behaviour"  !

Apparently his daughter became pregnant without a committed father and the son was into drugs ..

I could not  understand -  at the time.

 now I  understand.


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London Bell

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Re: The UKs christian roots
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2019, 08:39:12 AM »
In my humble opinion for what its worth, parents are responsible to their children but not responsible for them and their outcome.
A strong, happy family background, christian upbringing and good parenting gives children more advantage, than those who don't have that. It doesn't rule out though that society is going to impact on them, more than their upbringing.
It doesn't rule out going through very difficult things that can affect behaviour .
Although the children can go back to their roots, when they are older.  Where the parents planted good seeds. In the values they taught, in what they did for them, the love they showed, the way they spent time with them and the role model they are.
Parents can be excellent and those sort of things can still happen, where  their children still go off the rails.
There is pressure in christian circles and often they do not understand what its like to be afflicted by difficulties that can affect you as a role model as a parent, with the pressures you are under.
Only sometimes your children can see your faith in the difficult circumstances more subconsciously and one day those seeds can take a positive root.
If those leaders resigned of their own accord, thats understandable considering the pressures they are under. Others forced to resign, may be judged by people who have had things much easier, and judge instead of praying and looking for ways to support.
Those who went through those difficult things, can be stengthened by their faith and understand the things of God, that are so lacking by those who judged them.

A yardstick to go by is God and how He parents His children who often rebel. He cannot be blamed for that.

London Bell

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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2019, 12:40:59 PM »
Chesterton said it :- ' When you remove belief in God you replace it with belief in anything!'

Which is what we are seeing today.

The authorities are currently a monstrosity for approving certain policies.
 Many parents are recognising that this new legalistation in gender reaassignment and associated teachings is a form of child abuse and grooming from the LGBT movement.
There is control, force and manipulation and the authorities should never have given permission for this.

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Re: The UKs christian roots
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2019, 09:39:12 AM »
Why do you assume that a godless society will only aprove of Godly morality?

A godless society like we have thinks it is being perfectly reasonable in promoting lgtb etc

London Bell

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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2019, 01:28:24 PM »
Why do you assume that a godless society will only aprove of Godly morality?

A godless society like we have thinks it is being perfectly reasonable in promoting lgtb etc

I didn't say that. @John
I quoted you out of agreeing with you , and I know very well that a godless society think they are reasonable and doing good.
I was simply  saying that parents of all sorts are recognising the immorality in promoting lgbt . Others support them. Theres a mixture.
I did not say what you have  written. To add that
A poor boy got thrown out of a class by the teacher because the boy said there are only two sexes.
Things are so hard now and don't add to it towards people who are agreeing with you, and on your side. That could be bullying just like with what is going on. Hope you are not and sorry if I'm wrong.

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Re: The UKs christian roots
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2019, 09:24:41 AM »
If you agree with a post say so. I took a continued mentioning of wrong acts as  not understanding the reasoning for those acts.

London Bell

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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2019, 10:31:57 AM »
I would have thought you knew I was agreeing with you and especially with my other posts. Please stop being so discouraging, not just to me but in general to others. In looking at your posts, you appear to be a kind, caring person and so this discouragment you bring to others does not suit you.

This is an example of showing that I know the reasoning behind those acts mentioned. I have NOT continually mentioned them without showing why. One of my previous posts here:

Somehow I don't think you are meaning things as its come across. For  we cannot submit to the authorities, by supporting the evil taught to children. They may call that good but its not God's love.
These authorities are not ordained by God and are the political monstrosities in Revelation.
God only ordains the authorities at large, with how it was not so long ago and. when politics did not oppose the Word of God.
God however ordains some politicians that can revert it back.
As you said about watching:
 If you see the extortion of the poor,
or the perversion of justice and fairness in the government,
do not be astonished by the matter.
For the high official is watched by a higher official,
and there are higher ones over them!
Ecclesiastes 5:8-10
Back in the past it seemed the end was nigh with what Hitlar threatened and if he suceeded, then it would have been the end times. It was overturned and we have a lot to be grateful for, to those people and to God
It can be overturned today, but today its different because evil is disguised as an angel of light, and its not so clear cut what people do. They can suffer very deep wounds of  psychological injuries and others can be and are persecuted.



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