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All things bright and beautuful
« on: May 28, 2019, 10:10:07 PM »
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Do you remember that well known hymn from school assemblies but no longer played!
Critics have picked up certain wordings in it about the upper class and lower class and as if God destined that. Turning it to something that is berating to the working class and as if its promoting the upper class.
At one time I too could have fallen for that but more recently try to look at where people are coming from and their true intention.
The artist was inspired by God and can see that but I dont think their was any intention of presenting the wording to the way it was interpretated.
All of the hymn is presenting variety in creation.
The artist also gave money to the poorer people at that time. If any one misinterprets the expressions they need to remember that what was an acceptable well meant expression then can be thought of as being unacceptable now,  and often  the context and true meaning is twisted  to fit the usual attacking of christianity.
Lots of things today and lots of expressions that would have horrified the people of the past are becoming accepted in the world today. Only God can show what is acceptable and what is not and more looking into intent rather than how things get interpreted.

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Re: All things bright and beautuful
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2019, 07:33:45 AM »
I certainly remember singing the hymn, what I don't rmember is ever singing the verse about the Lord in his castle etc.
Verses have always been dropped or added to popular hymns so the lack of current popularity of this hymn in secular circles is more likely to be due to its creationist theme then for socialist reasons.

The chorus of ' The Lord God made them all is anathem to them.

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Re: All things bright and beautuful
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2019, 08:36:03 AM »
The verse that was missing when I was at school was:
"The rich man in his castle,
The poor man at his gate,
God made them high and lowly,
And ordered their estate."
Much later it was used by some circles, to get christianity misunderstood. Both socialists and anti creationists.
That verse doesn't sound very nice at all and I don't like it at all but like the rest of the hymn. I however realise thats probably how they talked in those Victorian days and there was more of a social divide and attitude towards the poor. Even though the artist gave money to the poor there was probably a patronising attitude common to many on the richer side of the divide, but the artists  heart was in the right place and loved God our Creator in just expressing the variety.
Theres a lot of people around they are a good sort but rather patronising until experienced, informed or educated about other people.
I never knew that verse was there and when I was at school nearly every teacher mentioned God and christianity, even if they were not practising christians. Every day at school there was a christian assembly.
I even remember the news had the theme tune to day by day from a christian song.
Did you ever imagine back then that things could be like they are now.?


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Re: All things bright and beautuful
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2019, 07:45:30 PM »
I researched this a bit more and it shows how I made assumptions very quickly.
The artist Cecil Frances Alexander had written All things bright and beautiful and Once in Royal Davids City.
In the carol she referred to Jesus being born into lowly dwellings and status within the title containing the word Royal. 
Obviously she didn't mean the wording to be as it appears in the verse of "All things bright and beautiful."
It was just the expression of the time and culture, which tells us a lot of things. People do not always mean things as we interpret.

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