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Ofsted-backed LGBT course suspended by primary school after parents protest

Parkfield Community School in Birmingham has agreed to suspend its LGBT-promoting ‘No Outsiders’ programme until a resolution is reached with parents.


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Offline Indonesia

Following news parents oppose Offsteds support for LGBT.

That needs consideration and prayer.
Encouraging with the parents reaction but what about the future generations?
These antichrist procedures need to overturn.
This is not an attack on individuals not born hetrosexual. Just that doesn't occur as much as they claim it does. Most of it is the trend.
How do I say this without  sounding offensive because I'm not intending that.
I want to say that all are born with different ailments, which are physical and mental but can still respect each other and see more to a person, than any label they come under. For homosexuality is an ailment but still that person should be loved and valued. Supported when they are battling with it.

Having said that it needs to be acknowledged that homosexual practice and promotions should NOT be allowed. Like it was before.

When it comes into any policy then you know the society/world has gone completely haywire. It is not right and the evidence is that they cannot produce children.( later added. This is evidence that it is not right as a homosexual couple because they cannot produce children and is contrary to God's designs).
In the garden of Eden, God created man and woman and children are their fruits. Works of darkness bears no fruit and is godless.
Practising and promoting homosexuality in politics is a complete rebellion towards God in completely going against His creation a man and woman. Even in Christ the Bridegroom and His people the Bride.

Homosexuality in politics is a major sign of an evil society. Alongside the increase of violence, corruption, deception and murder.
Its widespreadness is nothing new. Look at Sodom and Gomorrah. Thats older than Victorian days and older than the trees. Today the social media is helping it to spread to the whole world.
God would probably see countries less corrupt by His standards when they are looked upon as behind the developments because LGBT and many many antichrist policies are among them, often disguised as something good by manmade standards.

Offline TaraH

Hi @Indonesia

That?s some post !  I can?t say i agree with very much of what you say.  This post, for me, is the perfect example of the archaic attitudes within Christianity, that?s led me to abandon my faith virtually completely.  I know you?ve not meant this in a malicious way, and you are no doubt spot on scripture wise , but i can?t hate someone or want to outlaw their lifestyle because it says so in the bible, we no longer stone people, or beat our slaves etc, etc,.  It seems to me, Christianity is no longer a progressive way of life, quite the opposite.

You said
?In the garden of Eden, God created man and woman and children are their fruits. Works of darkness bears no fruit and is godless.?
Do you mean like me?  A married career woman, who chose not to have children?  Is this not even worse than being homosexual?

Incidentally you mentioned that homosexuality doesn?t really happen that often, adult homosexuals account for about 6% of the population(uk), same as the number of active, practising Christians.  I?ve not checked these numbers properly, seems to be the consensus though.

Tara

Offline Indonesia

@TaraH that wasn't an attack on people with no children at all, whether they are married or single.

It was affirming homosexual couples cannot produce children and showing how that goes against God( in being a couple ) and is contrary to what is natural to humans and mammals.
There is nothing in the design of same sex relationships that can produce children.
There is though in the design of opposite sex couples. That was all I was saying and how homosexuality goes completely against God's Word and design, when it is practised and promoted in politics. When it is widespread then it is contrary and in the height of being evil, just like a worldwide Sodom and Gomorah. Please realise depravity always goes with it.

Nothing to do with being single or married with or without children. That is not connected to what I was saying at all.

I wasn't even attempting to attack homosexual people but more wanting to state my view over policy that  is antichrist.
I think homosexual people should be welcomed into the church and its between them and God. Basically none of my business. God can transform people but in their timing. 1 Cor 6:9-11
What I strongly disagree with is any antichrist politics being taught to children and  forcing them and disagree with any campaigns to change christianity and God's Word.

Progressive thinking is connected to evolution and the thinking becomes instead of Christ -  with a combination of good elements and subtlely evil elements with a subtle attack on God.
I could have easily been sucked in but no I stand firm having been transformed in Christ.
I didn't say anything in my post about stoning them or even being hostile if you reread it I mentioned God's love.
I disagree with some old ways of course but the pendulum always swings to extremes and I cannot agree to LGBT being adapted to God's Word.
I think it is an illness but that doesn't mean they should be treated badly but a stop has to come in forcing their way into changing christianity and God's Word and forcing it onto children.
They talk a lot now about mental illness. If someone had bi polar depression I accept and value them but it doesn't mean we should all have bi polar depression. If they become ill in their thinking. It doesn't mean we all should be.
Also to look at the person as a whole and not concentrate on their illness. To treat them well and that includes not stigmatising them as well because we all have different ailments.

I said nothing about stoning people and I do wish we all  could learn to look at points and retain parts and sieve out parts, without puting them into a category that does not fit what has been said or written in a post.
And the bible gets taken out of context as well.

With the 6% statistic is that those as well following the trend and fashion to be LGBT.

@TaraH A bit of research showed me that John Stott has written a book " Same sex relationships".
John Stott was a well known christian and can sensitively put across his points, standing on God's Word.
I want to read this book to learn from him. I also read that the book helped homosexual people because of the way he wrote it, without them feeling condemned but they were prevented from practising homosexuality.

Offline TaraH

Hi @Indonesia

You said
With the 6% statistic is that those as well following the trend?
What trend?

I referred to stoning as an example of an instruction given in the bible, that we no longer fulfill, that was all.

I?m fairly well versed on social psychology and evolutionary biology, you really need to read more!

Tara



Offline Indonesia

A friend of mine studied "Child development" and that involved Evolutionary biology. He was not allowed to use references from the past authors and they had to be modern authors.
The idea behind it was that as the future progresses, the mind improves and that past views are superceded by future views and connected to the culture. All fitting Evolutionary thinking.
I disagree and think many things of the past will never be forgotten and superceded. Including points of views, literature and written music and just to list a few.
Neither am I dismissing modern talent and some modern points of view.
I simply do not believe the human mind has got better because people are now becoming "godless."
Without God, anything goes and humans write the code of morals, which change according to the time and place. Human reasoning is incomplete without God and only God knows the intentions behind behaviour. Humans do not and they can make incorrect decisions.
I could read books on Social Psychology  but that will never take me away from loving God and He is not an apathetic bystander. He helps.

Offline Deborah

Where does the 6% figure come from? It depends who you read/quote, what the source of their data is, and how accurately they have interpreted it. It's so very easy for bias to creep in.

Having worked in sexual health for 30 years, I would say that 6% is a bit too high for the UK. We actually have some reliable statistics from the NATSAL survey:
8% of men reported having ever had a sexual experience of any kind (not necessarily full sex) with another man. Now this isn't the same as 'being' homosexual; many of these 'experiences' would have been either a brief experiment, or an unwanted encounter (assault). When asked a more specific question - whether they had had a male partner within the past 5 years - only 2.5% answered "yes". For women, the figures for sex with other women were very slightly higher. Some of these people would also have had heterosexual partners during the same time period. So a reasonable 'working figure' might be 2-2.5% of the population, And not all of these will be exclusively homosexual. There are a substantial proportion who are bisexual - which means they are attracted to both men and women.
"My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me." (John 10:27)

Offline TaraH

Hi @Indonesia ,

You said
I could read books on Social Psychology  but that will never take me away from loving God and He is not an apathetic bystander. He helps
Why would reading books on Social psychology take you away from God? 

You said

?Without God, anything goes and humans write the code of morals, which change according to the time and place. Human reasoning is incomplete without God and only God knows the intentions behind behaviour. Humans do not and they can make incorrect decisions.?
i don?t agree, and maybe if you read more, you wouldn?t be writing things like this.  If a basic human has no morals without God, then how come we are still here, why didn?t we all kill each other before God made an appearance?  Haha i now sound like an atheist.  Also humans make bad decisions whether they have or don?t have god in their life!  That?s just biology.
Unfortunately homosexuality etc, is a fact of life, it?s been about for almost as long as modern homosapiens have been about, it?s not a new trend.  Schools are supposed to prepare children for life, how can they do that, if they have to miss out all the bits that are controversial, but relevant in today?s modern society.  Same with the Church, how can you
preach about loving your fellow God-made man, and then go oh but not him, he?s one of them!!!!  It?s about time the Church butted out of the bedroom.  Do you ask your colleagues, workmates etc you are heterosexual aren?t you?  No, you wouldn?t, so why does it matter?  Because it says so in the Bible, really isn?t an answer, since, as i pointed out previously, there are lots of things in the bible we no longer do.

Tara




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