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Offline melliff

Re: Why are we here
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2019, 08:53:21 AM »
Deborah and Davetaff, thank you for your responses.

Deborah,

'live in a way that honours God'.

That defines how to live, but not why we are here.  As God is eternal, presumably there was an eternity before God created the Universe and then mankind.  If there was no need for mankind up to that point, what was the new need that mankind satisfies?  What do we add to the Universe?

Davetaff,

I've always had a problem with the concept of free will.  The way that a person behaves is a function of many factors: intelligence, upbringing, environment etc, all of which are created by God, so ultimately everything we do is a function of what God created and therefore we are doing what God intended.  How is that free will?
 

Offline Deborah

Re: Why are we here
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2019, 11:31:23 AM »
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If there was no need for mankind up to that point, what was the new need that mankind satisfies?

Why do you assume that God 'needed' us? Perhaps He created the world just because He wanted to.
"My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me." (John 10:27)

Offline melliff

Re: Why are we here
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2019, 05:59:02 AM »
Why do you assume that God 'needed' us? Perhaps He created the world just because He wanted to.

Yes, I understand, but if that is the case, it is rather disappointing as I have always assumed that we had a special reason for being here.  I have heard Christians tell non-believers that their lives lack purpose but I guess we are all the same.

Offline John

Re: Why are we here
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2019, 07:54:29 AM »
Welcome Melliff,
                         To live to glorify God is both our purpose and how we are to live.
You are disapointed with this as a purpose in life. What better purpose is there than to gl;orify God by how we live?
Would you want a life full of challenges and impossible tasks?
Have you ever tried to live to Glorify God?    It is far harder than living as a super hero doing daring deeds and spectacular actions.

God invites the weak, the failures, the ordinary people to serve him. You or I don't have to be wonderful people, we just have to be ourselves.

Is that boring?

There are plenty of exciting opertunities to work with the down and outs, street children or even with your neighbours, to seek to tell them about Jesus.

Offline Deborah

Re: Why are we here
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2019, 08:11:29 AM »
Yes, I understand, but if that is the case, it is rather disappointing as I have always assumed that we had a special reason for being here.  I have heard Christians tell non-believers that their lives lack purpose but I guess we are all the same.

I'm a little surprised by your reaction. Most people would rather be 'wanted' than merely 'needed'.
"My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me." (John 10:27)

Offline melliff

Re: Why are we here
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2019, 07:51:06 AM »
I'm a little surprised by your reaction. Most people would rather be 'wanted' than merely 'needed'.

I agree, but "wanted" for what?  That was my original question: what are we here for? 

Offline John

Re: Why are we here
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2019, 11:33:43 AM »
And you don't like the reply.

We are here to serve God.

                                    Anything else is selfishness.