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Offline davetaff

Re: 1 John
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2019, 02:20:27 PM »
Hi John
Thank you for your question what it means is we have to follow the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ and his apostles and even the OT and not to follow the ways of the world when they are contrary to these teachings.
In a nut shell our Lord said.

Mar 12:30  And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mar 12:31  And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
   


and in the OT we have this.

Deu_30:16  In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
     


what it basically says we should walk in Love God is Love the greatest force in the universe is love we step out of the world and into Gods Love and do our very best to impart that Love to everyone we meet even our enemies.
No easy task I must admit.

Love and Peace
Dave 

Offline Deborah

Re: 1 John
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2019, 02:22:52 PM »
v7 "If we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another..."

'Walking in darkness' includes such things as hating our Christian brothers (I John 2:9). We can't have fellowship with God while refusing to have fellowship with other believers!
Conversely, if we really are in fellowship with God then we shall also find ourselves in fellowship with other Christians. For everyone who is walking close to God will inevitably end up walking close to one another.

... and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin."

'Walking in the light' doesn't mean perfection; if it did, there would be no need for ongoing cleansing! The blood of Jesus cleanses us not only from our past sins (when we become Christians), but also from the sins that we continue to commit.
"My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me." (John 10:27)

Offline John

Re: 1 John
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2019, 11:09:21 AM »
Hi John
Thank you for your question what it means is we have to follow the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ and his apostles and even the OT and not to follow the ways of the world when they are contrary to these teachings.
In a nut shell our Lord said.

Mar 12:30  And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mar 12:31  And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
   


and in the OT we have this.

Deu_30:16  In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
     


what it basically says we should walk in Love God is Love the greatest force in the universe is love we step out of the world and into Gods Love and do our very best to impart that Love to everyone we meet even our enemies.
No easy task I must admit.

Love and Peace
Dave 

So you are basicly advocating keeping the 10C?

Offline davetaff

Re: 1 John
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2019, 02:20:01 PM »
Hi John
Thank you for your post I think the words of our Lord sum it up well.

Mat 5:17  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18  For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
   

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As we see the law is still applicable it still tells us what sin is, our Lord gave us a better way to comply with it through Love if we Love our fellow man as we should then we comply with the whole law in the same way our Lord did.


would you like to start a new thread on this subject so we wont derail this one.


Love and Peace

Dave

Offline davetaff

Re: 1 John
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2019, 02:48:04 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you those three replies very good and a blessing to many like you say there is a lot to say about the light of the world could fill libraries and has done,

1Jn 1:8  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.       


I suppose its impossible not to sin it happens so easily we loose our temper and say things we should not we look lustfully at members of the opposite sex we use the lords name in vain we hate our fellow man and say things like I could kill him which according to our lord is tantamount to murder.
and all this happens on a daily basis so we need to confess these things on a daily basis and always strive to do better and ask our Lord to help us and I am sure he will.
But I don't think we should abuse the privilege of for giveness by saying it don't matter what I do God will forgive me and use forgiveness as an excuse commit sin.

And we should never say we never sin we are all guilty of sinning and if we say we are not then we call God a liar and we can not be in fellowship with him.


Love and Peace

Dave       

Offline Deborah

Re: 1 John
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2019, 11:46:57 AM »
v8,10

The decisive victory over sin was won at my conversion; but although sin has been defeated, it still remains a lingering presence. Ignoring sin, or pretending that it isn't there, points to a serious misunderstanding of human nature. This is the reality: that we aren't basically good but fundamentally evil. To pretend otherwise is self-deception (it certainly won?t deceive anyone else for long); not only that, it amounts to blasphemy ("we make God out to be a liar")!   

Now when we start walking in God's light, our sins actually become more obvious! God's word challenges us, and His Spirit sensitises our consciences so that we become more aware of how sinful we really are. True saints are not free from sin, but all the more conscious of it!

The presence of sin isn't the problem; the problem is finding excuses for it or pretending that it doesn't matter. We're extremely good at rationalising our sin and explaining it away: we call it by another name; or we put it down to heredity, environment, necessity or fate.

v9

The wonderful thing is that we do not need to be completely sinless in order to enjoy fellowship with a holy God. If we ask for forgiveness, we will receive it; but unconfessed sin will not be forgiven (Luke 18:10-14).

Some people say that a Christian doesn't need to ask for forgiveness because our sins are already forgiven. But this is a complete misunderstanding of what John is talking about. This is not a salvation issue; it's about our relationship with our heavenly Father. The new covenant, like the old one, has a mechanism for dealing with the sins of the redeemed (see Leviticus 4). This mechanism is called confession and repentance (Proverbs 28:13).
God is faithful to His promises, and has provided a means of satisfying His justice - so He is able to forgive us than punish us. And He bears no grudges; when He forgives, He does so completely and unconditionally. Knowing this, we can always go to Him to confess our sins, confident that He will forgive us again and again.
"My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me." (John 10:27)

Offline davetaff

Re: 1 John
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2019, 12:39:19 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for another excellent post.

. John 2

 1  My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

 2  And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

 3  And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments       


Yes we are little children when we are reborn through baptism and as little children we have to mature and grow through eating the bread of heaven the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ which makes us grow in him.
We can all grow at different rates some remain little children all their lives being fed on spiritual milk others go on to maturity.
Having said that we still sin but now we have an advocate in heaven to plead our cause when we confess our sins through him we know he hears us and will grant us forgiveness.
And not only us but he can grant forgiveness to the whole world if they will only turn to him and repent.
Then we need to keep his commandments how should we keep them through love loving God and loving our fellow man by doing this we fulfil all the laws given by Moses as our Lord did when he was here on earth as he said he came to fulfil the law not to abolish it.
Think what a wonderful world it will be when everyone loves everyone no need for armies or police no one need to go hungry or thirsty.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Deborah

Re: 1 John
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2019, 04:18:44 PM »
I John 2:1,2

Sin is inevitable; but that doesn't mean that we can simply give up and give in to it. We can and should fight sin; but we won't always win. However, there is no need for despair. If we admit our inherent tendency to sin and throw ourselves upon God's mercy we can begin to defeat sin.

Jesus is the Righteous One - both able and willing to represent us before God, and to procure forgiveness for us. No-one will ever approach God in need of forgiveness and fail to find it; for Jesus will be in heaven acting on their behalf. He stands permanently between our sinfulness and the holiness of God, shielding us from His wrath. And so forgiveness is free (to us); but it is not cheap. God has paid for our sins Himself! In one single act of atonement, Jesus has dealt with all sin, for all time (I Peter 3:18). Every time we sin, that sin is blotted out by the blood of Christ.

Verse 3 belongs with the following verses, so I will leave it for now.
"My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me." (John 10:27)