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Offline davetaff

Re: 1 John
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2019, 05:55:22 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your reply

1Jn 2:15  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jn 2:16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1Jn 2:17  And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
     


V 15 Here John Gives a warning don't love the world and the things of the world and I think this warning is very appropriate in our day and age there are so many distractions and so much evil out there through the media and the internet it is so easy to get sucked in especially when everyone is doing it and they want you to join in it is not easy to resist we need to pray for help and strength to resist.

V 16 all this evil that is in the world is not from God but from the devil and we must resist all evil.
modern technology is not evil in its self its how people use it it can be used for Good as well as evil even on here much good can be done spreading Gods word across the globe yes we all have different points of view but behind what we say there is Love.

V 17 yes the world is passing away it may seem slow to us but we know that this evil world we are in now will pass away and God will create a new heaven and earth and we Know when we enter into that world we will have eternal life always keep this in mind even iff the times are terribly bad.


Love and Peace

Dave   
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Offline Deborah

Re: 1 John
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2019, 08:37:12 PM »
v15-17

The 'world' that John is referring to is 'the ungodly social environment in which we live'. Its attitudes and ambitions are diametrically opposed to the wisdom of God! It is our equivalent of 'Egypt' - the culture that used to enslave us. And like the Israelites, we have to leave it in order to become members of the Kingdom.

The world panders to our fleshly appetites, encouraging sexual liberation and other forms of self-indulgence, bombarding us with materialistic propaganda ('advertising'), and seducing us with the false promises of wealth and fame. But its rewards do not last and ultimately cannot satisfy. "The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives for ever." There's no comparison, really!
"My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me." (John 10:27)

Offline davetaff

Re: 1 John
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2019, 10:07:26 AM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your reply very informative

.  18  Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

 19  They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us       


V 18 when John uses the term little children is he referring to new converts warning them and us of the anti Christ's in the first instance those Jews who refused to accept Jesus as the son of god.
Of course there has been many anti Christ's since John's time that is why I believe we need to go back to the scriptures because they are God's word and we know they are truth.

V19 Here John emphasise that the anti Christ's in the first instance came from the Jews and were trying to bring in aspects of the temple worship into Christianity such as circumcision and by so doing were leading new converts astray.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Deborah

Re: 1 John
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2019, 09:48:55 PM »
Hi Deborah
Thank you for your reply very informative

.  18  Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

 19  They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us       


V 18 when John uses the term little children is he referring to new converts warning them and us of the anti Christ's in the first instance those Jews who refused to accept Jesus as the son of god.
Of course there has been many anti Christ's since John's time that is why I believe we need to go back to the scriptures because they are God's word and we know they are truth.

V19 Here John emphasise that the anti Christ's in the first instance came from the Jews and were trying to bring in aspects of the temple worship into Christianity such as circumcision and by so doing were leading new converts astray.

Love and Peace
Dave

That isn't quite right, Dave. When John uses the word 'us', he means Christians, not Jews. These false teachers weren't outsiders coming into the church but Christians who had gone 'off the rails'!
The Jewish Christians who tried to force circumcision onto Gentile converts were very active in Paul's time (around AD 45-55, when Galatians was written). But this letter was written much later, and the circumcision issue had largely burnt itself out by this time. The false teachers that John was worried about had a completely different agenda - we'll see what they were teaching in verse 22 and again in chapter 4.
"My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me." (John 10:27)

Offline davetaff

Re: 1 John
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2019, 10:51:05 AM »
Hi Deborah
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. 20  But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

 21  I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

 22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

 23  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also     


V 20 Here we are told we have an anointing of the holy one all those who have been reborn into the body of Christ receive the holy spirit.
V 21 here John tells us that through the spirit we shall know the truth God's word is the truth and as we read and meditate on his word the Holy Spirit will reveal to us God's meaning.
V 22 So who is the liar it is the one who refuses to acknowledge that Jesus Christ is the son of God the messiah the saviour of the world they are those who belong to the anti christ and there are many anti christs in t the world today.
V23 so to have the Father we must acknowledge his son so all those who do not accept Christ as the son of God does not have the Father.
Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God the son will lead us to our heavenly Father.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Deborah

Re: 1 John
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2019, 04:30:17 PM »
v20-23
Many 'Christian' cults down through the ages have taught that only an elite group of 'spiritual' people can have a full understanding of God's truth. John contradicts this most emphatically: every single Christian has received the Holy Spirit, and "all of you know the truth."

Another thing that most cults and false teachers have in common is a distorted view of Jesus Christ. Some say that He isn't really God (such as the Jehovah's Witnesses); others have said that He wasn't really human (the Gnostics in the first two centuries AD). But according to John, Jesus is so fundamental that if we are wrong about Him, we are outside God's people altogether! This why the ancient creeds are so important. A lot of people despise them (either they say that we don't need them, or claim that they were 'invented' by Constantine) - but you have to suspect that these people have a hidden agenda, and are actually trying to lead us away from the truth.
"My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me." (John 10:27)

Offline davetaff

Re: 1 John
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2019, 11:42:18 AM »
Vi Deborah
Thank you for your reply helpful to those who read it.

. 24  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

 25  And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

 26  These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you         


Here John emphasise the importance of retaining what we have heard from the beginning for us I believe it is the teachings of Christ and his Apostles.
Over the last 2000 years all sorts of different teachings have come but I think we need test these things against what the scriptures say and it they contradict it then they should be discarded.

V 25 so if we stick to what is written in the scriptures we will inherit the promise which is eternal life and we will be with the Lord forever.

V 26 Here John gives the reason why he has written to them and to us to warn us about all those who try to lead us astray with man made theories.
We only need to look at all the different denominations all saying different things but at the bottom of them all is a core truth and this is what we need to get back to.
God is Love so let us get back to loving one another as he has commanded us.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Deborah

Re: 1 John
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2019, 02:35:08 PM »

Here John emphasise the importance of retaining what we have heard from the beginning for us I believe it is the teachings of Christ and his Apostles.
Over the last 2000 years all sorts of different teachings have come but I think we need test these things against what the scriptures say and it they contradict it then they should be discarded.

V 25 so if we stick to what is written in the scriptures we will inherit the promise which is eternal life and we will be with the Lord forever.

V 26 Here John gives the reason why he has written to them and to us to warn us about all those who try to lead us astray with man made theories.
We only need to look at all the different denominations all saying different things but at the bottom of them all is a core truth and this is what we need to get back to.
God is Love so let us get back to loving one another as he has commanded us.

Love and Peace
Dave

"look at all the different denominations all saying different things" - but remember they do also agree on a lot of things! All denominations believe the Apostles' and Nicene creeds - which are the fundamentals of the Christian faith!

v24-27

Doctrine does matter - we won't be led astray if we stick to the apostles' teaching that we find in the New Testament.
There's a lot of false teaching about (especially in Christian internet forums, unfortunately); but we shouldn't be unduly alarmed. The antidote to false teaching is the truth, and the Holy Spirit has been given to us (v27) "to guide you into all truth" (John 16:13) (But note - He's been given to us - collectively - not to enlighten individuals but to enlighten the Church as a whole. Bright ideas and new interpretations that come into someone's individual mind need to be compared with the teachings of the whole church and not accepted without criticism)
"My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me." (John 10:27)