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Offline John

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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2019, 05:05:32 PM »

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The long term problem of a  Brexit rejection is basically a union WITHOUT God. That is consequently demonic.
Welcome Nostalgic to the forum.

The eu is a plitical and ecomic union. It is as much a christian union as the uk is a christian state, which it is not.

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Offline francis drake

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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2019, 10:39:52 PM »
John, before you make judgements on Brexit, you need to turn off the TV, Radio, and stop reading newspapers.

All organs of the mainstream media (msm) are mouthpieces of the New World Order who are secretly trying to create world government. The EU being the first of 10 regions they will eventually create.
All the main parties, in one way or another, have been part of the cover up for the last 50 years.

Politics is no longer left vs right, but personal freedom vs big government and International Corporation tyranny.

If you are serious about what's going on, then do some research on various alternative media sites and then prayerfully compare notes. Whatever you do, don't stick to one site, always find other sources until you can reasonably verify things.

You will be amazed at the massive dishonesty of the government.
eg. You may remember Theresa May's chief law officer in Parliament. He gave an "abbreviated" presentation of the legal effects of Theresa Mays Brexit Chequers deal.
Thankfully, the House of Commons had enough sense for once to demand the full document.

The PM repeatedly refused until astonishingly, both she and the government was held to be in legal Contempt of Parliament, leaving her with no choice but to hand over the full document.
Sure enough the abbreviated presentation was grossly dishonest!

But this has been the story for decades, both government and parliament hold the British public in complete contempt and think they can get away with anything.


No deal brexit is the worst option as it leaves trade arrangement subject to world trade agreements and cancels any deals we have with europe,
Most of the world operates on WTO terms quite successfully.
In fact, the best deal by far is a No Deal Brexit. That puts the UK in a brilliant and strong negotiating position against a weak and desperate EU.
Every new deal will always cancel or supersede the old deals, even Theresa May's Chequers package.

You also need to realise that in trade terms, the UK is far more important to the EU, than the EU is to the UK.

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it leaves science research vunerable
Like the rest of the scare stories, this is just more from the government's project fear propaganda.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/01/11/clean-sovereign-brexit-win-win-british-science-leading-academics/
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and security/justice treaties being cancelled.
Again more project fear when in fact, the very opposite is true according to a former Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS/MI6) and former Chief of the Defence Staff
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/01/11/mi6-boss-and-army-field-marshal-mays-brexit-deal-places-national-security-in-foreign-hands/
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The rights of our cityzens in europe unclear and restates the need for visas if we want to go to france etc.
And you'd sacrifice national sovereignty for the sake of a visa?
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/01/11/clean-sovereign-brexit-win-win-british-science-leading-academics/
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/01/11/mi6-boss-and-army-field-marshal-mays-brexit-deal-places-national-security-in-foreign-hands/
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline Nostalgia

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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2019, 02:04:08 PM »
The problems in accepting the EU are by far gigantically  greater than they would be by not accepting.
Making the rebellion to God and truth more so.
If you know what children are forced into and what they are taught in schools nowadays, you will see how the Whore in Revelations is being formulated. That is only part of it and that is more than dreadful enough. That From the same evil spirits behind the EU.
God is not even revered and was in the days of WinstonnChurchill.
I am not sure about the common wealth connections from the past . They may have stemmed  from God
when he did give peace after the ww2 war. In days when he was honoured, revered and even consulted in prayer. Nowadays he is not.

Offline davetaff

Re: brexit !
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2019, 02:24:51 PM »
Hi
Do we need to worry about these I thought God was in charge and directs everything to complete his plan of creation.


Rom 13:1  Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
     


So sit back relax and let God do his work.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Nostalgia

Re: brexit !
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2019, 03:36:26 PM »
@davetaff its true God gives true peace and asks us to give him our burdons. That doesn't mean we should be unconcerned and not praying and not petitioning in the Spirit of God.
Wouldn't you be concerned if your children / grandchildren were influenced or forced to think they were the opposite gender and taught homosexual sexual practices and marriage and adults influencing them to partake in unhealthy pasttimes. Have a look around its happening. Im not joking.Thats only a small part. Is that not unhealthy and extremely dangerous for children. Thats all part of connections to EU policie, disguised as equality. Please be aware.

Offline davetaff

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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2019, 04:20:46 PM »
Hi Nostalgia
Welcome and thank you for your reply yes of course we should be concerned about all the things you mention and we should speak out when we have opportunity to give good sound biblical advice to those around us.
we know that in the end times things will get very bad satan will do everything in his power to turn people away from God and it seams he is doing a very   good job at the moment but all this is prophesied and we know the only thing that will change this is the return of our Lord in power and glory.

All we can do is keep the laws of love live quietly and pray earnestly for the return of our Lord

COME LORD JESUS COME


Love and Peace

Dave 

Offline Nostalgia

Re: brexit !
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2019, 05:27:39 PM »
@davetaff you have acknowledged that things will get very bad and that it already is.
Are you aware that its connected to the EU, part of unity but without God?

If you can see that then you will agree that it will be a far greater thing to come out of the EU.

God is involved in politics and remember Presidents and those in governing bodies who prayed and overturned evil situations.
Only if the freewill of man turns away from God and rebels against him he is not in politics then. Like now where policy and the bible are in disharmony.
Nothing without God works and is satanically instigated.
Christians can pray for that and pray God will provide and make a way and solutions for the problems that are concerning those for what happens if Brexit occurs. Like what happened after WW2 there were solutions.
We know things will get very worse before they get better in the eventuality, thats biblical. Only our duty is prayer and petition for God to overturn the process happening now. It will not be permanant sadly though but could last for substantial years.

Offline Carpenters Son.

Re: brexit !
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2019, 02:13:12 AM »
I heard my mum say on the news this morning Mr Macron has declaired himself the life long leader of the EU? 

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