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Offline Raina

Re: All things are from God
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2018, 07:36:06 AM »

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Thinking of wealth.  There is, of course, worldly wealth and there is a deeper, spiritual wealth found only in God.  I agree that, here, in America, most of us are wealthy by worldly standards; most of us have too many possessions, more than we need, more than probably is healthy.  We drown in our own annoying "stuff."  We would do well to share, to practice compassion, to welcome those with little or nothing, to see Jesus walking among the poor, sojourning with them.  Struggling alongside them.  Encouraging them.  When we feed the poor, we feed Him.  When we welcome them, we welcome Him.  We would do well to recall that Jesus walked dusty roads, had no place to lay his head, was often weary, yet His love never failed.  He had a special love for the poor and downtrodden.  He fed the people in every way, body and spirit, tho in terms of worldly wealth, He was quite poor.  He made Himself poor to make us rich---in the things of heaven.  There is a lesson in that.

Is our love here in wealthy America failing?  Is our compassion lacking?  Do we justify ourselves, choose to be selectively blind, turn away and forget mercy?  What indeed do we do with our wealth?  On what does America spend her wealth? Jesus commanded us to love one another.  To love our neighbor as ourself.  What is the opposite of love?  I tell you, the opposite of love is indifference.  We all know we are not to hate, but indifference also kills.  Us and them.

Needs must be met.  As is said, it does no good to preach the Gospel to a man whose stomach is empty unless you first fill his stomach.  "I was hungry and you fed me.  Thirsty and you gave me drink."

The title of this thread is 'All Things are from God.'  I would say that everything good and beautiful is from God; many things are of darkness.  Darkness covers the land in an insidious fashion.  Sly.  Stealthy. 

Worldly things are often necessary and nice, but we can be rich, while poor and utterly unhappy.  We can have everything we could possibly need, yet be bleeding out for lack of love.  How many "wealthy" people are truly happy?  Health fails, friends forsake us, family abandons us, and, without God, we sit in the midst of our great wealth with absolutely nothing. Dark night of the soul.  I've been there.  Without God, what is light?  Without God where is love in a world that remains fallen for the lack thereof? 

His own did not receive Him.  Yet to those who did receive Him ...


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Offline John

Re: All things are from God
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2018, 09:44:54 AM »
Raina,
            "The title of this thread is 'All Things are from God.'  I would say that everything good and beautiful is from God; many things are of darkness.  Darkness covers the land in an insidious fashion. "

We are governed always by what scripture teaches and literally 'all things are from God.'
He may not cause one to have cancer, be fired, assulted, for ones flowers to wilt, pets to disappear etc etc etc but he permits them to happen.

We have to live according to Romans 8:28 all things work togetherv for good, 'all things' covers all good things and all bad things.

two current christians we should remember are examples for us.

Asia Bibi, ten years on death row and still being held despite being aquitted.
Jonni ererson tarda, paralised while a teenager and having to live in a wheelchair.

How would we cope?

How would we trust God?

 If that happened to us.

Offline davetaff

Re: All things are from God
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2018, 10:56:36 AM »
Hi John
Thank you for your post made me think of the following

. 5  And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

 6  For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

 7  If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

 8  But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

 9  Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live         


So do you think that the bad things that happen in our lives are a test of our faith.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline John

Re: All things are from God
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2018, 12:48:38 PM »
Dave,
              I think it dangerous to asign causes to what happens in our lives.
People in the past were far to willing to assume that their prosperity was a blessing from God, when really it was due to shrewed buisness and sharp practises.
They also assumed that poverty was a punishment, though they also regarded it as an indication of lazyness.

Because of the history I leave it to each person to examine themselves for any reason why they should benefit or be punished by God.

As I see it, it is irrelevent why we suffer if we are urnestly seeking to follow Jesus.

Offline Raina

Re: All things are from God
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2018, 03:02:52 PM »
I agree.  God "allows" much.  God allows almost unbelievable things.  Things that try our souls.  Things that bring us to our knees.  But, this will not always be so.

This will not always be.  This, too, shall pass.  Meanwhile, if we abide, there is beauty among the ashes.  There is light in the darkness.  If we search, it is there.  Comfort can be found.

God is close to the brokenhearted.

"In this world you will have tribulation. But, take heart ...."

Be strong.  "I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength."

So can you.♡

~Raina


Offline davetaff

Re: All things are from God
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2018, 05:18:21 PM »
Dave,
              I think it dangerous to asign causes to what happens in our lives.
People in the past were far to willing to assume that their prosperity was a blessing from God, when really it was due to shrewed buisness and sharp practises.
They also assumed that poverty was a punishment, though they also regarded it as an indication of lazyness.

Because of the history I leave it to each person to examine themselves for any reason why they should benefit or be punished by God.

As I see it, it is irrelevent why we suffer if we are urnestly seeking to follow Jesus.

Hi John
Thanks for your reply I don't think people are punished by god as such but God dose allow evil to exist in this world and because of this people will have tribulation of no fault of there own but if we look to God he will sustain us and help us get through the hard times he may not do what we want but what he dose do is for our benefit.
I believe the hard times we may go through helps to strengthen our faith remember God never removed the thorn in Pauls side.

2Co 12:9  And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
2Co 12:10  Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
     
 
So we see from the above that God always has a good reson for what he dose.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline davetaff

Re: All things are from God
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2018, 05:30:37 PM »
I agree.  God "allows" much.  God allows almost unbelievable things.  Things that try our souls.  Things that bring us to our knees.  But, this will not always be so.

This will not always be.  This, too, shall pass.  Meanwhile, if we abide, there is beauty among the ashes.  There is light in the darkness.  If we search, it is there.  Comfort can be found.

God is close to the brokenhearted.

"In this world you will have tribulation. But, take heart ...."

Be strong.  "I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength."

So can you.♡

~Raina

Hi Raina
Thank you for your posts very thought provoking jest what we need to keep the little grey cells working.
Yes you are right this world will  not always be as it is now because we know there is a new world to come and I believe it is not to far away.
Yes in this world we will have tribulation because of the ruler of this world satan but we know that Christ has overcome him and his days are numbered he will do everything in his power to turn us away from God but we must stand firm and keep the faith.


Love and Peace

Dave

Offline Raina

Re: All things are from God
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2018, 07:06:16 PM »
Hi Raina
Thank you for your posts very thought provoking jest what we need to keep the little grey cells working.
Yes you are right this world will  not always be as it is now because we know there is a new world to come and I believe it is not to far away.
Yes in this world we will have tribulation because of the ruler of this world satan but we know that Christ has overcome him and his days are numbered he will do everything in his power to turn us away from God but we must stand firm and keep the faith.


Love and Peace

Dave

Thank you.  xo  My cup tends to run over as I write.  :undecided:   Or maybe my heart.  I dunno.  I find this world a rather difficult place.  But, there is beauty.

For example:  I found myself waiting for hours as my Blazer was in for repairs recently.  Out of boredom I wandered the parking lot, which was in a business area--- nothing but concrete, trucks idling,  and the nondescript backs of buildings.  Not too inspiring.  But, something challenged me to search for something beautiful.  I switched on my camera, and ... it was amazing.  I got some of the best photos!  The clouds were lined up in the sky, just right for a long  narrow shot with great color contrast.  A few brilliant, scarlet leaves remained on the water shoots at the base of a bare tree with a healing wound.  Men are likened to "trees."  (And, I have a "thing" about tree bark.   :D   )  An interesting bird's nest on a branch.  Purple clover nestled in fallen leaves.  Barbary leaves in autumn dress.  So, when I really searched, I found, what to me, were the fingerprints of God.  In an unattractive parking lot!  It kinda taught me a lesson. 

Sometimes God paints a big  glorious picture that shouts.  Like a sunrise.  Sunset.  Other times, we have to search, really focus and shut out all the "noise."  Life is like that.  God is always with us; He promised, after all.  But, sometimes He hides and wants us to try a different perspective, see in a different light.  Look closer.  Look again.  Scripture can be that way, too. That's what makes its great literature as well as 'the bible.' 

I guess my point is that things are not always what they seem.  When God seems to be missing, when we don't understand, maybe we just need to get quiet and look again, look a bit closer.  Trust.  The treasures are there.  We just need the patience to find them.  Hearts in which to store them up.  (Cameras are fun, too.  :azn:  )

~Raina♡

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