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Offline HalfFullGuy

Should Christians see Mohammed as Prophet?
« on: October 09, 2018, 12:33:11 PM »

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If we ignore whether he was a good man or not, should we declare Mohammed to be a prophet?

The Church I have been attending up until very recently, has been continuing on a downward spiral of heresy. We have been engaging a lot in interfaith work - something which I have gone on record as saying that I have no objection to interfaith work and providing a place of welcome, however I am mindful that we have a tendency to overlook people in our own flock who need welcome and support. We fail to properly support our neighbour.

The Church I belong to think nothing of insulting Donald Trump and calling him a a narcissist, a mysoginist etc - never anything good out of their mouths. Then they claim that although Mohammed wasn't perfect, he showed extraordinary gifts which were prophetic and our vicar says he has no problem calling him a prophet. He says he does this to respect his Muslim friends. Though presumably his Muslim friends wouldn't show him respect and call him the son of God. Then he questions why I say he makes exceptions to explicitly support the Islamic community instead of supporting his own Christian community and doesn't see the total contradiction.

Forgetting whether Mohammed was a great man or not (I know what I believe), I still wouldn't call him a prophet. I believe he was erroneous in many areas, but also as a Christian, who believe fully in the life death and resurrection of Jesus Christ as well as him being the son of God, there's no way Mohammed could possibly be a Prophet.

Now I believe that Muslims are secure enough for me to call Jesus the Son of God and say that I don't think Mohammed is a prophet. But if they want to believe that, then that's up to them. That's fine. You follow God the way you feel you should, the way you believe he has been revealed to you. I happen to think they're wrong.

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Offline Deborah

Re: Should Christians see Mohammed as Prophet?
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2018, 01:36:45 PM »
Technically, Mohammed is (or was) a prophet - it's just that Christians believe him to be a false prophet.
"My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me." (John 10:27)

Offline HalfFullGuy

Re: Should Christians see Mohammed as Prophet?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2018, 01:57:33 PM »
Technically, Mohammed is (or was) a prophet - it's just that Christians believe him to be a false prophet.

Im happy to accept that he is a prophet for Islam, but that doesn't mean I have to accept him as a Prophet, and technically, he's completely wrong about so much stuff that his prophet credentials are largely invalidated.

Offline Collin

Re: Should Christians see Mohammed as Prophet?
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2018, 01:11:02 AM »
If you and me and all of us can't yet fully understand our own scriptures. Why tamper and place another Yoke upon yourself.

Offline davetaff

Re: Should Christians see Mohammed as Prophet?
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2018, 05:19:29 PM »
Hi
Well he is a prophet for the muslims but is he a prophet appointed by God I would say no the last prophet appointed by God was Christ there are no others after him.

I have read somewhere that Mohammed said that Christ was the greatest prophet after him he got that wrong I also read that he said the Jew the Christian and the muslim where all people of the book I think he meant the OT that may be food for thought.

here's something I posted on another thread thought it mite be relevant.

 well that fell on dead ears but never mind I will continue with another outlandish prophecy.
Noah had three sons Noah represents humanity who would produce three sons or groups of people the Jew the Christian and the muslim =  Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Ham saw his father naked and went and told his brothers the truth but his brothers did not want to know so went in backward and covered there father with a blanket thus covering the truth.

As a result of this Ham son Canaan was cursed

Gen 9:25  And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
   

can be read as the son of the father became a curse and a servant to his brothers this also mirrors Christ when he came into the world it's the same story it's played out in lives of ordinary people and mirrors a spiritual reality.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Collin

Re: Should Christians see Mohammed as Prophet?
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2018, 10:56:52 PM »
Hi
Well he is a prophet for the muslims but is he a prophet appointed by God I would say no the last prophet appointed by God was Christ there are no others after him.

I have read somewhere that Mohammed said that Christ was the greatest prophet after him he got that wrong I also read that he said the Jew the Christian and the muslim where all people of the book I think he meant the OT that may be food for thought.

here's something I posted on another thread thought it mite be relevant.

 well that fell on dead ears but never mind I will continue with another outlandish prophecy.
Noah had three sons Noah represents humanity who would produce three sons or groups of people the Jew the Christian and the muslim =  Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Ham saw his father naked and went and told his brothers the truth but his brothers did not want to know so went in backward and covered there father with a blanket thus covering the truth.

As a result of this Ham son Canaan was cursed

Gen 9:25  And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
   

can be read as the son of the father became a curse and a servant to his brothers this also mirrors Christ when he came into the world it's the same story it's played out in lives of ordinary people and mirrors a spiritual reality.

Love and Peace
Dave
    Totally up to you Dave butI know there is no other way to heaven but threw Christ.I also blieve this is adulty because looking at their scripturews is lusting for another woman because the flesh is woman but who knowes,I could be wrong about it so let your heart lead you.

Offline davetaff

Re: Should Christians see Mohammed as Prophet?
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2018, 02:51:43 PM »
    Totally up to you Dave butI know there is no other way to heaven but threw Christ.I also blieve this is adulty because looking at their scripturews is lusting for another woman because the flesh is woman but who knowes,I could be wrong about it so let your heart lead you.


Hi Collin

Thank you for your reply and of course you are absolutely right the only way to the father is through Christ.

I have never read the Koran or any of the muslim litrature the things I said in the above post are only things I have read in passing and it was a very long time ago.

As for my interpretation of Noah and his three son that's my own thoughts on this scripture all I'm trying to say in my own bad way is after the flood one of the first things God tells us is what is going to happen his plan if you like and he tells in the lives of those that came out of the ark.
do I have any grounds for spiritualising this part of scripture I believe I do let us look at

Deu 25:4  Thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out the corn.
   


And what dose brother Paul have to say about this text.
1Co 9:9  For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
1Co 9:10  Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.
 


This shows us there is a higher meaning to scripture than just the plain reading of the words and its
this higher meaning we should look for or maybe I should say wait for God to show us.
Was this Israel mistake that they took the literal meaning instead of the spiritual meaning ?

Maybe we need to look at the law in a different light.

Love and Peace
Dave 
 

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Re: Should Christians see Mohammed as Prophet?
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2018, 04:12:59 PM »
Your vicar maybe a little mixed up and needs a little prayer so he can clarify things in his mind. :)

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