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Offline John

Re: Globle warming
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2019, 11:39:49 AM »
I filled the form in.
@davetaff It was foretold that things will go from bad to worse and seeing that.
Although our part can turn things around and slow down the trend, eventhough eventually it will happen as foretold.
Right now I'm longing to be in the past in seeing the world today, and feel like a stranger to this world.
On a positive note we are getting closer to the second coming of Christ, although preceding that, things will heighten in evil as you know.

Thank you for completing it.

Offline davetaff

Re: Globle warming
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2019, 01:47:55 PM »
Hi John
Thank you for your post I think we need to consider how did Christ start his revolution he did not come as a great military leader although he had access to ten thousand legions of angels he came meek and mild riding on a donkey.
So should we follow Christ's example of should we preach hell fire nd eternity in a lake of fire can we frighten anyone into loving anyone.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline John

Re: Globle warming
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2019, 07:19:20 AM »
Hi John
Thank you for your post I think we need to consider how did Christ start his revolution he did not come as a great military leader although he had access to ten thousand legions of angels he came meek and mild riding on a donkey.
So should we follow Christ's example of should we preach hell fire nd eternity in a lake of fire can we frighten anyone into loving anyone.

Love and Peace
Dave

What has your reply got to do with using our freedom to seekl to influence politics?

Offline davetaff

Re: Globle warming
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2019, 11:39:26 AM »
Dave,
          "there will be persecution so do you believe we can change anything."

We have freedom to evangelise, yet we don't, we have the right to talk to our political leaders, yet we don't.
Our civilisation is built upon Christianity and as that influence fades so we see ideas and practices common before Christianity, becoming the accepted norm.

Part of our task like Paul is to demolish every idea contary to scripture, to make mens minds our captives.

Else where you say we must 'Love our neighbour as ourselves!'
How little love is shown if we do not point out to our neighbours the consquences of there actions in rejecting God.


Hi John
My reply was in answer to the above and basically what I'm saying is how shall we change things with aggression or with love.
God has proved that crime and punishment does not work he proved it with Israel but through Christ he offers us a better way crime and forgiveness and the only way to over come evil is with love.
So how should we talk to our politicians and would they listen you say our country is built on Christianity who's Christianity man's or Gods.
Do you approve of the crusades as a way of furthering God word do you believe it right to preach that the God of love will burn alive unbelievers in a literal lake of fire and this is the gospel we should preach.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline Indonesia

Re: Globle warming
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2019, 11:10:30 PM »
There are so many true christians on their own in very difficult situations. When it was recommended to go out in twos, at least.That is because true christians need each other in speaking out the truth to opposition. Not just speaking but showing love. In practical ways and not just words. Although words have power when they are said through the Holy Spirit but so do deeds have power when through the Holy Spirit.
Its a tricky one to know whether to be wrathful or to be gentle. I guess we need more people with backbone to stand up for God's truth and being wrathful does not mean it is without love.
In the USA some evangelists approached a group of gay choir singers warning of God's judgement and the lake of fire. The singers appeared to be the winners by the appearance of soothing the situation with their songs of equality. Thats not the case..as God knows the inner intentions behind it. The other people giving warnings may have their heart right with God but not always going about things the right way.

 Only who knows maybe in God's eyes it was the right way. Its better to have the right intentions than the wrong intentions and appear acceptable to mankind. When its not acceptable to God.
Thats what they need to know. It is the heart and how the heart is where the intentions are.
 Who knows maybe the warnings did reach to the soul of the choir people.
Maybe that approach is right if its for the right reasons and out of love to want people to come into the truth and light of Christ. How Jesus wept, wailed and spoke out strong wrathful words of fire and hell. It was because of his love.
The other different  approaches work too from different personalities etc. Guess it depends on the situation and the people who it is for.

Offline Indonesia

Re: Globle warming
« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2019, 03:06:50 PM »
There are so many now protesting that we should save this planet and in their world they are moral beings, who are acceptable by human standards.
 The peril of it is that there is a denial of God, with thinking  that  human beings can save this planet. For the truth is that only God can do that.
We have peace knowing that and seeing the scriptures being fulfilled over these "godless" days.
We already know the future and these protestors are clutching at straws, with worthless morals and worthless aims. Thats why emphasising Jesus is the priority.
You may ask how and what approach should we use.
A friend of mine was born again many years ago and several things reached out to her. It was positive when she was converted. Only on that route, she said she saw a poster warning her of hell on a church wall, opposite to where she lived and it led to sleepless nights. She said it deeply disturbed her and that isn't the way to witness. Thats what she said but I wonder if the shake up did get through to her. Its not pleasant to talk of hell but thats why we can appreciate Jesus who provided a way to avoid it, through his redeeming blood.
What hell actually is is another topic but it hits me right now that its not at all going to be good to die without God.
If you knew a bomb was going to explode on an aircraft wouldn't you want to out of love warn people but say you can avoid it.

 The good news is Jesus who died to save us from our sins and redeem us from perishing in hell.


Offline Indonesia

Re: Globle warming
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2019, 06:59:44 PM »
I know I keep going on about this subject. In a way the times now seem rather flat and characterless, in comparison to the past. Modern technology has progressed but with it is less reverance and less acknowledgement of God. There is more  human pride and less humility. Could say its exciting seeing the scriptures come alive among this.

2 Timothy 3:1-16KJV

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good.

2 Peter 3:3-5 KJV

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water.


Talking of climate change. It is biblical that there will be more natural disasters. For we are seeing it.

That is subtlely different to global warming.  Within global warming, there are a lot of things there to turn steer people away from God's truth.
A few years ago in a programme they said that the scientists claim that snow will be a thing of the past, because the planet is warming up.
 That very winter it snowed and snowed frequently after. old: They speak nonsense. reader:


Offline francis drake

Re: Globle warming
« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2019, 10:36:39 PM »
God has proved that crime and punishment does not work he proved it with Israel
God proved no such thing, and scripture says the complete opposite of your false assertions.
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but through Christ he offers us a better way crime and forgiveness and the only way to over come evil is with love.
Unbiblical nonsense. Go read the verses about the judgement seat of Christ. Forgiveness is never given to the unrepentant.
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So how should we talk to our politicians and would they listen you say our country is built on Christianity who's Christianity man's or Gods.
And the Christ of Christianity will not forgive the unrepentant wicked but condemn them.
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Do you approve of the crusades as a way of furthering God word do you believe it right to preach that the God of love will burn alive unbelievers in a literal lake of fire and this is the gospel we should preach.
Its difficult debating with you when you completely disregard the scriptures and substitute your own fantasy world.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)