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Offline francis drake

Just wondering does water baptism have any value at all John the Baptist said.

. Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire       

The one who came after him of course was Christ so what was the baptism of Christ how do we acquire it I say it's by being washed ( baptised ) with the water of the word of God this is what cleanses the inside of the cup.
This is the baptism of great worth it is a spiritual baptism the receiving of the spirit with fire.
Dave, can you define what you mean by the "word of God."
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline davetaff

Dave, can you define what you mean by the "word of God."

Hi Frances
First let's look at what is meant by the water of the word.

.  25  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

 26  That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word         

I take the word mentioned here to mean the scriptures as we have them and especially the words of our Lord Jesus Christ and his apostles this is the water that cleanses the inside to allow the Holy Spirit to enter in.
Washing the outside with water has no value as I can see unless it's to show other's you have become a believer.

Love and Peace