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The Jews believed in God as per Acts 16:31
« on: September 14, 2018, 01:19:49 AM »
The Jews believed in God - as in  Acts 16:31, so why did Jesus need to enter the equation ?

Is'nt believing enough....







Offline francis drake

Re: The Jews believed in God as per Acts 16:31
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2018, 10:36:49 AM »
The Jews believed in God - as in  Acts 16:31, so why did Jesus need to enter the equation ?

Is'nt believing enough....
I shall try to answer candidly, at the risk of theological abuse.-

In terms of eternal life, believing and trusting in God is perfectly sufficient.

God obviously needed the death of Jesus as a legal price to reverse what Adam had done. But knowing and understanding that transaction has never been necessary for eternal life, any more than knowing the details of the pilot when you go on a plane journey. Its sufficient to have faith in the airline, knowing that they have sent the pilot to his job.

The Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ is about what happens in this life, not about getting people to heaven as is generally assumed.

The letters of Paul etc. are addressed not to the unregenerate, but to the saints, those who are already born again. This demonstrates that the purpose of the letters is to get the word of life into those who are already alive in Christ!


From this fact, we should then realise that the concept of "Salvation" is not "heaven when you're dead", but living a life of victory on earth.


Sadly, the church has turned the gospel on its head, seeing its prime objective as getting people into heaven, It has thus filled its pews with unbelievers and infantile believers who think they have already arrived at journey's end, membership of the church.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline Deborah

Re: The Jews believed in God as per Acts 16:31
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2018, 12:32:55 PM »
The Jews believed in God - as in  Acts 16:31, so why did Jesus need to enter the equation ?

Is'nt believing enough....

Believing in God was 'enough' before the promised Saviour came.
But now it's necessary to believe that Jesus is the promised Saviour. A Jew who doesn't accept Jesus as Messiah is repudiating God's way of salvation.

Note that in Acts 16:31 Paul said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus." - not "believe in God"
"Since we have these promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God." (II Corinthians 7:1)

Offline francis drake

Re: The Jews believed in God as per Acts 16:31
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2018, 02:48:28 PM »
Believing in God was 'enough' before the promised Saviour came.
But now it's necessary to believe that Jesus is the promised Saviour. A Jew who doesn't accept Jesus as Messiah is repudiating God's way of salvation.

Note that in Acts 16:31 Paul said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus." - not "believe in God"

The term "salvation" wasn't merely getting to eternal life. All through the scriptures, it primarily referred to what happens in this life, deliverance from Philistine, famine and plague etc! Thus salvation is an ongoing and every day event for those who already believe, not just a place to arrive at and stop.

Phil2v12Therefore my beloved, just as always you have obeyed, not only as in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Even before the Holy Spirit fell on them, Peter's visit to Cornelius (neither a Jew nor Christian) also revealed the fact that everyone who fears God and follows Him is acceptable to Him.
Acts10v34And Peter, having opened the mouth, said, ?Of a truth I understand that God is not One who shows partiality, 35but in every nation, the one fearing Him and working righteousness is acceptable to Him,
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)