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Offline Sharky and George

Dream interpretation
« on: September 06, 2018, 08:19:14 PM »
Dream interpretation

My opinion is that as Christian's we should not dismiss trying to find meaning in the dreams that we have as some are from God.

BUT also

We should be very careful to use proper discernment in our interpretation when we do:

   ? Is it biblically sound e.g. the dream may have felt good but was it sin - wrong interpretations may make your heart justify sin when you wake up.*
   ? How did it feel? Most likely if it made you feel rough then the dream was of the enemy, a nightmare. Sometimes a warning from God too though.
   ? Maybe it is just your brain processing the day if you dream about potatoes if you had a jacket potato for dinner lol.






https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-dream-interpretation.html this IMO is a good bible based website, and this is some useful advice from it:
If it is, prayerfully consider what God would have you do in response to your dream (James 1:5).
 
In Scripture, whenever anyone experienced a dream from God, God always made the meaning of the dream clear, whether directly to the person, through an angel, or through another messenger (Genesis 40:5?11; Daniel 2:45; 4:19). When God speaks to us, He makes sure His message is clearly understood.






*I don't think I have been led into sin by a dream but I have been led astray by them before e.g. in a time when I was desperate for a breakthrough, the enemy gave a dream of doing a job that I was not ready for. I tried this job and found I had to leave as it was a massive stress. I have been led into big seasons of struggle and confusion as I had put my hope in a dream that was not of God.

Sometimes we should do this:

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Psalm 73:20 English Standard Version (ESV)
20 Like a dream when one awakes,
O Lord, when you rouse yourself, you despise them as phantoms.







Hope I have not been too serious, watch out for Nephilim size potatoes running after you with a peeler. 😊






Shalom

https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-dream-interpretation.html



Offline francis drake

Re: Dream interpretation
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2018, 10:25:23 PM »
My opinion is that as Christian's we should not dismiss trying to find meaning in the dreams that we have as some are from God.
Agreed. I have lived the last 40 odd years being led by dreams visions etc. Don't know how people live a Christian life without it.
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BUT also

We should be very careful to use proper discernment in our interpretation when we do:
   ? Is it biblically sound e.g. the dream may have felt good but was it sin - wrong interpretations may make your heart justify sin when you wake up.*
Few of my dreams visions etc gave any challenge to theology. Many were connected with direction for living, work, houses, relationship etc..
One powerful dream where I was woken by the audible voice of God, initiated an almighty revelation of scriptural truth that took several years to collate as the Lord revealed each new step.
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   ? How did it feel? Most likely if it made you feel rough then the dream was of the enemy, a nightmare. Sometimes a warning from God too though.
Agreed. But we need to develop that sensitivity not just to dreams but to everything that goes around us. So when the pastor stands at the front with his sermon spouting garbage, we know in our hearts where to stick it, rather than foolishly swallow it whole as if it was God speaking..
Every night as we lie down, my wife and I ask the Lord to speak to us in dreams and visions. We also make sure we always have note pads and pens handy so the dreams don't escape us as we wake.

Those words then get added to our archive of rhema words.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)
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Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Dream interpretation
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2018, 03:09:48 AM »
Not arguing with the general post - however..

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So when the pastor stands at the front with his sermon spouting garbage, we know in our hearts where to stick it, rather than foolishly swallow it whole as if it was God speaking..

Correct this is why we are given discernment... however

 Joseph Smith and the mormons.. relied on visions and dreams alone  ?

Sorry and with scripture... or their added /interpreted scripture...

Dangerous stuff - as the leader of the Children of God David Brandt Berg has visions and his own interpretations..












Offline francis drake

Re: Dream interpretation
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2018, 10:27:23 AM »
Not arguing with the general post - however..

Correct this is why we are given discernment... however

 Joseph Smith and the mormons.. relied on visions and dreams alone  ?

Sorry and with scripture... or their added /interpreted scripture...

Dangerous stuff - as the leader of the Children of God David Brandt Berg has visions and his own interpretations..

At the end of the day, we can't just willy nilly believe someone's dreams, visions, or bible teaching, on the grounds that he's the pastor, or a famous TV evangelist and thus it must be true.
As you point out, he could be another Joseph Smith gathering foolish followers. So how do we know what's right?

Nobody comes to Christ because of clever theology, we came because the Holy Spirit did something in our hearts that convinced us what we were hearing or seeing was true.

So whether its an evangelist, a dream, a beautiful landscape, watching a baby being born, the Holy Spirit convicts us of the creator, through all of these and more. Its that inner witness that is our arbiter of truth.
That's why Romans1 tells us that people are without excuse, and there will be no escape at the final judgement.

Sadly, almost as soon as people make a committment and join a church, its as if they throw that inner spirit led discernment under a bus and replace it with suckling at the tit of their pastor, milk drinkers for ever more.

What happened to the promise of Joel that Peter quoted on Pentecost?


Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline davetaff

Re: Dream interpretation
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2018, 02:14:11 PM »
Hi
Just wondering what shall we ordinary mortals do who never have dream or visions or someone talking inside our head are we nonchristian.

should we believe everyone who says they have had a message from God via a dream how do we know it is from God how do we know they even had a dream.

For myself I believe that everything God wants us to know is in  the bible and Christ is the word God speaks to us through his word we know this word is true so why would we need anything else it seams to me that every time someone comes up with something new it causes divisions.
So if the dreams and visions people have comply with the scriptures 100% then that's fine if not they should be rejected

Love and Peace
Dave         

Offline francis drake

Re: Dream interpretation
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2018, 07:42:10 PM »
Hi
Just wondering what shall we ordinary mortals do who never have dream or visions or someone talking inside our head are we nonchristian.
Not non Christian Dave, but clearly living in a state of derision towards the promises of God written in your bible.
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should we believe everyone who says they have had a message from God via a dream how do we know it is from God how do we know they even had a dream.
If you read my post, I made it clear that we shouldn't just believe every dream or vision, but should learn to engage discernment. As to whether we even know they had a dream, the same applies to whether you Dave ever read your bible or have a sensible thought in your head. How do we know the answer to that one. :great:
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For myself I believe that everything God wants us to know is in  the bible and Christ is the word God speaks to us through his word we know this word is true so why would we need anything else it seams to me that every time someone comes up with something new it causes divisions.
Well there you go again Dave, claiming that all we need is found in the bible, when the bible itself says he speaks through vision, prophecy etc.
 Acts2v17?And it will be in the last days, God says, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh,
and your sons and your daughters will prophesy, and your young men will see visions,
and your elders will dream dreams.
18And even upon My servants, and upon My handmaidens, I will pour out of My Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.

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So if the dreams and visions people have comply with the scriptures 100% then that's fine if not they should be rejected
We have a problem there Dave. How do we know if something complies with scripture, when people like you insist that scripture says stuff that most other people reject. How can scripture be the "litmus" test when what is meant by scripture is so contentious?

As I pointed out in my post, there's just as much chance of error in bible teaching as in a dream, vision, or prophecy.
Prior to the modern revival of the gifts of the Spirit, the only source of direction had been the man with his scriptures, yet they still managed to divide the Christian world into thousands of denominations, all claiming to be right.

And just to be clear, in no way am I rejecting scripture. I love the scriptures and have been called into teaching for decades. However I balance my understanding with what the spirit reveals.

Additionally, a good percentage of dreams, visions etc have absolutely nothing to do with doctrine. Those who reject the revelatory gifts are also rejecting the guiding hand of the Lord in every day life.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Dream interpretation
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2018, 12:53:17 AM »
At the end of the day, we can't just willy nilly believe someone's dreams, visions, or bible teaching, on the grounds that he's the pastor, or a famous TV evangelist and thus it must be true.
As you point out, he could be another Joseph Smith gathering foolish followers. So how do we know what's right?

Nobody comes to Christ because of clever theology, we came because the Holy Spirit did something in our hearts that convinced us what we were hearing or seeing was true.

So whether its an evangelist, a dream, a beautiful landscape, watching a baby being born, the Holy Spirit convicts us of the creator, through all of these and more. Its that inner witness that is our arbiter of truth.
That's why Romans1 tells us that people are without excuse, and there will be no escape at the final judgement.

Sadly, almost as soon as people make a committment and join a church, its as if they throw that inner spirit led discernment under a bus and replace it with suckling at the tit of their pastor, milk drinkers for ever more.

What happened to the promise of Joel that Peter quoted on Pentecost?

 :thumbs_up: good stuff bro - God is good.



@davetaff   I remember one of the first online bible studies I did which was on "spiritual gifts" [let me see if I can find it]

Anyway I began by stating "I really do not think I should be doing a study on this subject as I really have no knowledge of it"

Nope cannot find the study  - sorry.

It's around somewhere on that search ATB of board..



Hi
Just wondering what shall we ordinary mortals do who never have dream or visions or someone talking inside our head are we nonchristian.

should we believe everyone who says they have had a message from God via a dream how do we know it is from God how do we know they even had a dream.

For myself I believe that everything God wants us to know is in  the bible and Christ is the word God speaks to us through his word we know this word is true so why would we need anything else it seams to me that every time someone comes up with something new it causes divisions.
So if the dreams and visions people have comply with the scriptures 100% then that's fine if not they should be rejected

Love and Peace
Dave         


What I've been talking to a mere mortal  ?

I thought I was posting to the son of Odin - who lives on Asgard. !







Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Dream interpretation
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2018, 02:19:02 AM »
Dream interpretation

My opinion is that as Christian's we should not dismiss trying to find meaning in the dreams that we have as some are from God.



Shalom


I had a very strange dream in the early hours, I dreamt of a wild cat tearing things to pieces...




I remember there was a time when visions and dreams where so prevalent - that they were rolling like pastry by a dough chef  and people where just queing up to hear God.

People were coming to God like "rain faling from the sky"

People who I never knew were coming to Christ and God was doing amazing things  [the problem]

People began to test me /God/  by logging in under various names to see if they could trip me up/God up/

Some silly person who was a friend of a friend decided to share a dream [made up drream] about being chased by vegetables..


I said "are you being real " and it seems the friend had begun to question and so used a friend"

I also remember someone who began to use me like some spiritual guide and believed I had some kind physic ability..

So I had to begin to lose these people.. [let go of them]

People can become their worst enemies.

Even where you have to hide in a cave and just focus on God.



Nowadays  I just focus on my business [that God started]




I began to look at the hearts of these people and decided that they did not want to know God... the time for God moving  had passed.

It was time for me to go back to my ordinary life.


That was the hardest thing I have ever had to do - because I did not want people looking to me , but to Christ.

Now I am just a simple Cleaner again - nothing more..

The lowest of the lowest - a window cleaner with no qualifications - a low life..

That is who I am..

No one..



You @davetaff are the no one - that God can use.

But be prepared to also be a "no one"

This will be you hardest lesson..

Even more to let go of people you love - because you love them..

I only hope you never have to go on  my  journey./.

Probably  better not to go through it..

Just focus on your  journey..


You would not like mine..