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Offline John

Re: Flat Earth
« Reply #80 on: March 16, 2019, 01:39:33 PM »
Dave,
             "the majority of those who haved lived have never heared of Jesus so they cannot make a choice."
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

As it says in Psalms, the heavens declare the glory of God, Day after day they pour forth praise. We have this life in which to find God, at deat we come under judgement and there is No second chance.


Offline davetaff

Re: Flat Earth
« Reply #81 on: March 16, 2019, 01:46:45 PM »
Hi Concerto
Thank you for your reply and directing my thoughts to the following

   Revelation 22:10?15
10 And he said to me, Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. 11 Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.?

12 ?Behold, vI am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay each one for what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.?

14 Blessed are those who wash their robes,5 so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates. 15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood           [/color/]

I think the city mentioned here is Jerusalem from where our Lord will rule the world with all those who belong to him.
Out side the city are all those mentioned above and Christ will reign over them with a rod of iron for 1000years.

What will be the purpose of this 1000 years reign I say to instruct those outside the city in the ways of the lord.

Love and Peace
Dave
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Offline John

Re: Flat Earth
« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2019, 10:23:13 AM »
Dave,
            inthe post on revelation you said:-

"the story of Israel in miniature remember these things were written for ancient people who thought the earth was flat back on track"

That is totaly wrong. The ancients were as clever as we are and knew that the earth was round.

Offline davetaff

Re: Flat Earth
« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2019, 10:58:46 AM »
Hi John
Thank you for your reply you said.

Quote
. That is totaly wrong. The ancients were as clever as we are and knew that the earth was round       

You will need to prove that statement the only thing that comes close in scripture is.

. sa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in       

A circle  is not a globe a circle can apply to a flat earth when an ancient man stood in one spot and turned 360 degrees what he saw was the circle of the earth and as far as he new it was flat.

Love and Peace
Dave

Offline John

Re: Flat Earth
« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2019, 12:13:27 PM »
Dave, follow the link to an article that quotes athist scholars who recognise that the belief in a flat earth by ancient scholars is a lie, as well as quotes from ancient scholars, both christian and pagan.

https://creation.com/flat-earth-myth
https://creation.com/flat-earth-myth

Offline davetaff

Re: Flat Earth
« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2019, 02:17:45 PM »
Hi John
Thanks for your reply don't think it covers the people I was thinking about those who lived 2 to 4000 BC and even if those in the article are right that knowledge would only be accessible to a privileged few Europeans other in the far reaches of our planet would not have a clue what shape our planet is may be there are still some out there that don't know.

Love and Peace
Dave 

Offline John

Re: Flat Earth
« Reply #86 on: March 20, 2019, 06:56:26 AM »
And your documentry evidence for this is what?

Do not be taken in by the godless believe that early man was ignorant, stupid and unable to learn.

If you read genesis you'll see that Adam and his descendants were highly intelligent, developing farming, animal husbandry, music, metal working within a few generations.

One family had to learn how to live in the world, making everything, could you? I know I couldn't and I watch the bear grills survilal programes.

So there is no logical reason to assume that early man didn't work out that the earth was round.

There is no evidence to show that early man thought the earth was flat.

Offline davetaff

Re: Flat Earth
« Reply #87 on: March 20, 2019, 10:51:25 AM »
Hi John
Thank you for your reply you are right there is no evidence that early humans thought the earth was flat and there is no evidence they thought the earth was a globe the best we can do is speculate.
As for early man before the flood  we only have what archaeology tells us.
Genesis is not the history of mankind but the creation of Israel those who came of Noah 's ark were pretty advanced in many things consider what was entailed in building the ark but weather they knew the earth was a globe is pure speculation.

Love and Peace
Dave