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Offline wincam

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non Christians..........saved
« on: July 28, 2018, 11:59:02 AM »

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it is easily seen and accepted that all the early Christians were non Christians but it not so easily seen or accepted that all Christians have been and are 'born again' non Christians - wincam


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Offline francis drake

Re: non Christians..........saved
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2018, 10:19:27 PM »
it is easily seen and accepted that all the early Christians were non Christians but it not so easily seen or accepted that all Christians have been and are 'born again' non Christians - wincam

Not sure what you are getting at here, can you clarify a little please.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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