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Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Creation or Evolution
« Reply #128 on: September 20, 2018, 01:55:25 AM »
Okay lets go to the static scripture and view a future tense [not yet written]in my life

God will create a new heaven and earth [future tense within a static scripture] as far as we are concerned [our lives and without  - how we want it to work for us]

A New Heaven and a New Earth

Revelation 21:1 Then I saw "a new heaven and a new earth," for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.


John saw...no division....no sea's ..no sea. no water..no divide...




While he was in bondage /on patmos...

In his life...


[apply his life in scripture to yours - nope thankyou - I don't want that..]

James 1:22-24 says "live it"





Offline davetaff

Re: Creation or Evolution
« Reply #129 on: September 20, 2018, 11:29:07 AM »
Hi Frances
Thank you for your reply you said.
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These verses speak nothing about your anti scriptural obsession with an "ongoing creation   
If this is true what did Paul mean by saying it was a great mystery.

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The problem with your "ongoing creation" notion is that it contradicts the whole idea of the fall. Look at the following verse.-
Rom8v 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now     

I think this quotation supports me rather than you it says.
. the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now       
If the creation was still going on when Paul wrote this then it means creation is on going until today and will end at Christ's second coming.
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.The above verses refer to the whole of creation, not just 99% of it.
Adam's rebellion caused the whole of creation to fall into the bondage of corruption       

This is true if Adam is Israel because to sin one most have knowledge of the law as given to Moses as.
. om 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression     
Only Israel had the law only Israel could break the law which they did Now being that these laws have spread around the word nearly every one knows what sin is so being that Israel has passed on the knowledge of sin everyone sins.

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2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here       

As we can see God has begun a new creation in Christ so when did the old creation begin I say after the flood everything that God needed was on the ark the only thing missing was man in God's image which is Christ United with his bride the church.
As for Adams sin and being cast out of the Garden this happened when Israel was taken into Babylon they were thrown out of the land flowing with milk and honey.
Of course God brought them back but they were again expelled when the crucified our Lord though shalt not kill rings a bell.
Israel has not been a nation for 2000years but now they are back confirming God's promises to them all prophecy will be fulfilled all Israel will be saved.

Just like say a big thank you to TJ for his insightful posts I agree with what you say I believe we both believe the same thing but see it from different perspectives.

Love and Peace
Dave



Offline Tes Johnson

Re: Creation or Evolution
« Reply #130 on: September 20, 2018, 02:30:39 PM »

Just like say a big thank you to TJ for his insightful posts I agree with what you say I believe we both believe the same thing but see it from different perspectives.

Love and Peace
Dave


thanks Dave   :D